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01-21-2012, 04:39 PM
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WTH are you talking about?
Turris is just starting his career. He was projected as a number one center a couple of years ago with star potential. He's obviously not as safe a centerman as a 30 year old vet but he has a hell of a lot more upside than Thomas Plekanec who is now in his prime and never will be any better than he is right now.
And since the trade Turris has been chugging along at close to a point per game pace. Well above what Pleks is producing at. So I'm not sure wth you're talking about here.
The 2nd has a 25 percent chance of even becoming an NHL player and we swapped one borderline NHL prospect for another. That is not a rebuilding move dude.
Just stop with this stuff.
You're right, getting an established star center is next to impossible. That's my whole point. You have to go after players with potential. Star centers may be impossible to get but strong prospects with good upside aren't.
I know Turris struggled in Phoenix but it was well known (and admitted by Phoenix) that he had been mishandled up until now. Three years ago this guy was a blue chip first line center. Now he's suddenly destined for a career as a 2nd or 3rd liner?
Kyle Turris could very well turn out to be a number one center. Maybe the odds aren't even 50 percent but even at 40 percent it's still a risk worth taking if you don't have to give up too much. The upside is worth it. I'd much rather take this kind of a gamble rather than give up Cammy for somebody's 30 year old problem child.
coreypronman He had top line upside, but significant unlikelihood he touches 2nd line. RT @Brochenski: @coreypronman what potential do you see in Turris?
coreypronman Despite little possession output as a 21 or 22 YO, some in the industry see Turris as a possible #2 or #1 center, latter a big reach.
coreypronman Will be good possession player for while. Misused badly last year. RT @bszwarz: @coreypronman thoughts on Lars Eller's development?
coreypronman Always been an Eller fan. Good 2nd/fringe 1st liner. RT @CynthiaC88C: @coreypronman Your toughts on Eller ? Potential?
Like I said earlier I also don't think the price Ottawa paid was small at all and since I don't think Phoenix would have wanted vets for him a deal from us would have looked like Beaulieu + something that is worth a bit more than a second since Runblad is worth more than Beaulieu. I prefer keeping Beaulieu and use our high pick to draft a foward.
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Or Turris might be the next Benoit Pouliot, who was also supposed to have first-line upside not long before he was traded to Montreal. Even though both are among LG's beloved top-5 picks without which no team can possibly do well. Come to think of it, Pouliot is also a cautionary tale on evaluating a player based purely on point production in a short stretch.
I'd say the odds of that he is the next Pouliot are better than the odds he ends up as a first-line center. More seriously, I think the most likely outcome is him settling along the lines of an offensively-minded second-line center; the kind of guy who gets somewhat soft icetime and uses it to produce offensively.
I don't think he's too likely to become better than Plekanec. Mind you, Turris becoming Plekanec would make this a pretty good deal for the Sens as it is. The comparison to Eller is apt, with Turris getting maybe a bit more offense and Eller being better against top opposition.
Yeah Turris strikes me as a softer opposition/PP producer kind of guy but I could be wrong. I'm also kind of biased since I tend to value strong ES/matchup guys over slightly more productive but less complete players.
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