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01-26-2012, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by OccupySheen View Post
Kings drafting is pretty overrated....

They've had numerous high picks over the years.

Kopitar is their best pick.
Doughty has underachieved the last two years.
Quick is obviously the best "steal" they've found.

Beyond that, all we heard for years is how much talent they have coming, the Hickey pick, was a typical egotistical Lombardi "i'm going to show everyone how smart I am" move, and unfortunately for him, it has backfired
Blah Blah blah. Numerous high picks over the years?

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Originally Posted by Bjindaho View Post
Hickey is in his 3rd pro season

He isn't a bust per se (much like Daigle wasn't really a bust). More of a poor pick.

IMO, a bust is a guy who never sees the show. Hickey could still play over 100 games (the make or break point of a guy being an NHLer at some point in his career).

That being said, a top 10 pick should net you a top 6, top 4, starting goalie.

There are more than a couple of D from his own draft year who have made it as well as D from later years (Voynov is a 2008 pick FFS).

A 4th overall pick should be able to make the NHL by the end of his ELC (and not get buried by guys taken with lower picks/journeymen NHL D).

To illustrate this:
Here are the other D picks drafted AFTER Hickey that have played at least 1 NHL game

Doughty (2, 2008)
Bogosian (3, 2008)
Pietrangelo (4, 2008)
Schenn (5, 2008)
Myers (12, 2008)
Teubert (13, 2008)
Karlsson (15, 2008)
Gardiner (17, 2008)
Sbisa (19, 2008)
Del Zotto (20, 2008)
Carlson (27, 2008)

(Note: that is all 1st round D except Cuma)

Voynov (32, 2008)
Josi (38, 2008)
Sauve (41, 2008)
Wiercioch (42, 2008)
Gaunce (50, 2008)
Hamonic (53, 2008)
Scandella (55, 2008)
Bourdon (67, 2008)
Kundratek (90, 2008)
Motin (103, 2008)
Brodie (113, 2008)
Borowiecki (139, 2008)
Larsen (149, 2008)
Spurgeon (156, 2008)
Holos (170, 2008)
Demers (186, 2008)
Bartkowski (190, 2008)


Hedman (2, 2009)
Ekman-Larsson (6, 2009)
Cowen (9, 2009)
Ellis (11, 2009)
de Haan (12, 2009)
Kulikov (14, 2009)
Leddy (16, 2009)
Rundblad (17, 2009)
Moore (21, 2009)
Erixon (23, 2009)
Olsen (28, 2009)
Despres (30, 2009)

(The ENTIRE 1st round D group has played at least 1 game)

Elliott (49, 2009)
Orlov (55, 2009)
McNabb (66, 2009)
Urbom (73, 2009)
Savard (94, 2009)
Ekholm (102, 2009)
Klementyev (122, 2009)


Gudbranson (3, 2010)
Fowler (12, 2010)
Faulk (37, 2010)


Larsson (4, 2011)

On top of that, there are 17 non-first round D from his year that have played NHL including Alec Martinez of LA. So, by my count, that is buried by Johnson (no questions there), Doughty (no questions, but he was a 2nd overall pick), Voynov (later draft and 2nd round), Martinez (same draft, later round), Mitchell, Drewiske, Greene and Scuderi (all journeymen).
And how many of those guys lost a year due to injury?

Huh how exactly are those guys journeymen? Mitchell could be considered on but Greene and Scuderi have only played for two teams and Drewiske has never suited up for anyone but the Kings. Martinez is also older and has put in his time in the system and seniority plays a big role in how the Kings deal with their prospects.

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