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01-27-2012, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by dats81 View Post
Yes, SH goals are included in the +/- in addition to even strength goals.

Claude Groux hasn't scored a SH goal all season so far and therefore he does not get a PLUS but only MINUSES when he is playing on the PK. Right?

Sean Couturier, who is first in shorthanded TOI, is a +13 overall.
Couturier does either a) score more even strengths goals than G or he b) gets scored on less when playing the PK. We know that a) is not true.

Conclusion: Cooter is a better penalty killer than G.
You get a similar result if you compare G to Matt Read in regard to the PK when checking the same numbers.

Maybe there is a far better way to do this evaluation? Maybe I'm getting confused about how the +/- is calculated? Please tell me because I really want to understand....
No. +/- is based on your TEAM goals when you are on the ice, and you can't get a - on the PK or a + on the PP. So you get a + when your teams scores ES or SH, and you get a - when your team is scored upon PP or ES.

Giroux's +/- is his + for all Flyers goals scored ES and PK, and his - for all opponents goals scored ES and Flyers PP, when Giroux is on the ice.

So you can't draw any of those conclusions from +/- .

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