2011-12 All Purpose Kings Trade Rumors and Proposals Thread IV
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02-03-2012, 05:47 PM
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Richards, Briere, and Giroux all had declining numbers playing with Carter. He does not work with playmakers, probably because he does not take 1-timers or slap shots in general. He has almost exclusively played with power forwards or other snipers. Umberger also rarely played with Carter. Umberger really kind of bounced around the lines with Philly playing everywhere from 1st line to 4th line. The year Umberger scored 50 Carter was playing with Hartnell and Lupul.
Hartnell came from the Predators where offense does not exist. In his first season without Carter he is having his best offensive season. Lupul's first healthy season since leaving Philly is also ironically his best season.
Comparing Jagr and Carter is also a bit of a stretch. Carter was also never "the man" nor was he half the player Jagr was. Jagr struggling is better then almost ever good Carter season. Not to mention Jagr still showed up when it mattered. Playoff success all over, Carter has been a train wreck in the playoffs every year. Carter still isn't the man ether, Rick Nash is.
This is just silly. Hartnell has been crapped on by a lot of the same Flyer fans that Carter has been, yet now, because he's putting up the points, people see his value. When Hartnell played with Briere and Leino he was the guy doing all the dirty work. This year, yeah, he'd bloody well better be putting up points since he's playing with Giroux and Jagr!
As for Lupul, he and Kessel have clicked although they're cooling off right now. Kessel did nothing without Lupul so obviously there is something good going on between them. But had they been put on separate lines, who knows what Lupul would be doing.
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