The 2011 Undrafteds Thread
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02-14-2012, 11:04 AM
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Someone would have to put together a case that demonstrates (perhaps through statistical comparables) that Hand was even NHL-caliber at all, and from there, make me believe he could be a 350-400 point scorer, as that's about what it would take to be a worthy pick at this point.
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Two defenseman with longevity: JJ Daigneault and Bobby Dollas and Russian Dmitri Kvartalnov.
What are your thoughts on these guys, seventies?
EDIT: just realized Daigneault was selected.
I am not a Daigneault fan. He was an offensive specialist and didn't get a lot of icetime. Interestingly though, he was #3 on the 1993 habs which makes him extremely unique (Beauchemin and Lorimer are the only defensemen taken in the last 500 picks who can say they were top-3 on a cup winner from 1920-2004, Lorimer twice)...
there is one more, I figured it out before but I completely forget who it was now, does anyone know? I know they were fairly recent.
Anyway, Dollas is about a poor man's Houlder or York, so I wouldn't take him quite yet. Fewer minutes for fewer games, for lesser teams. And York and Houlder were literally my last two guys here. But he was somewhere on my radar, just not quite close enough.
Isn't Kvartlinov a forward who had one good NHL season in 1992-93?
His case is intriguing. I can't see myself taking him just yet, but I bet someone would. He was a middling soviet league player until the 1989-90 season, when he exploded, after all the good players were gone. Then another middling season. Then he led the IHL in scoring (which puts him in the conversation, at least, for "best player outside the NHL" circa 1992). then he scores a point per game in a season in the NHL (but so did Greg Adams, Dmitri Khristich, Michal Pivonka, Benoit Hogue, Murray Craven, Derek King, Mike Ricci, Kelly Kisio, Stephan Lebeau, Steve Thomas, Andrew Cassels and Geoff Sanderson this year, mind you) playing with Adam Oates. The next year without Oates he was a half a PPG player, then that was it for him in north america. He finished up in leagues of low caliber.
He showed us a glimpse, but not sure it was bright enough or for long enough.
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