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02-29-2012, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MathMan View Post
There's nothing intrinsically wrong with getting bigger, the problem has always been that some proponents of this approach weren't too particular about maintaining skill at the same time...
I don't think this is true at all. People have said that we were too small and they were right. Nobody is putting size vs. skill except you. You keep trying to make us choose between them and that's not the case.

Nobody is suggesting we become the Bruins. We don't want to be the Bruins. We want a highly skilled team with some size. Unfortunately we've failed on both counts for years and that's why we're always fighting for the last playoff spot.

People have advocated a better mix and they were right.
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Originally Posted by Et le But View Post
The Cammalleri trade was clearly about cap space. For all the Gauthier hate, no GM in their right mind is going to admit that they are trading a playoff hero and one of the more talented forwards who was supposed to be part of the solution because he was a malcontent in a season we were losing control over, and that extra 3M can go a long way in retooling.

What he said about Bourque was true, he is a player that can contribute. But you get what you pay for, Bourque is a Kostitsyn like depth scorer on a depth scorer's contract. Cammy had a bad contract but there is a reason he is worth more than Bourque.

If the plan was to tank all along than trading Cammalleri and Kostitsyn did make sense, as we now have a lot more cap space going forward. But it's clear the team is a lot worse without them.
The Cammy trade was about a knee jerk reactive panic move driven by a GM who'd been embarrassed. The guy says the deal was done weeks before but they were waiting for his suspension to be over. And yet, we pull the trigger less than 24 hours after Cammy's comments and flip him in the middle of a game while Bourque is STILL suspended.

That move didn't make a whole lot of sense unless you look at it from the standpoint that he was hoping that Bourque would give us a little spark and we could fight (without much hope) for 8th.

And if the Cammy trade was about tanking, then we should've gone after a far more useless player and got a 1st rounder or some prospects to offset the player. Doesn't make sense to waste an asset like Cammy the way we did unless the GM actually believed that Bourque was going to turn it around. It was another fail.
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You can say that again. We went from a situation where Kostitsyn was the team's 5th-best winger to a situation where the 4th-best winger is one of Palushaj and Geoffrion.

The dismantling of the club via trades and injuries is really sad. I'm getting seriously worried about how long it will take to recover, given the slim pickings on the next UFA market.
The prized UFAs won't come here anyway. That's always been what we've tried to do. It doesn't work so we get the leftovers. Rinse, lather repeat... Suter would be great but he's not coming here. We have to accept this and understand that until we build a winning team it's going to be harder to attract those kinds of players.

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