Cory Schneider / Roberto Luongo to Tampa Bay
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03-12-2012, 02:18 PM
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I did, but I also deferred to the CBA. It's why Weber and Parise couldn't be poached off of offer sheets last summer.
Schneider is not in the same RFA category than Webber and Parise. You cant compare them. You can compare Schneider to Halak, while Halak was heading to RFA, Montreal could not protect Halak from offer sheet by sending him to arbitration.
This has been verified many many time since last summer, by different people on this board. Schneider cant be protected from offer sheet unless he is under contract.
Because Schneider makes under $1.5 million, the team can't elect for arbitration until the deadline for player elected arbitration passes which is on July 5th at 5:00 pm. So there's a 5 day window in there where Schneider cannot be protected from an offer sheet.
CBA Article 10.2(a)(B)
(B) Notwithstanding the foregoing, if a Group 2 Player requests
salary arbitration, or a Club requests salary arbitration, pursuant to Article
12, such Player will not be eligible to negotiate with any Club other than
his Prior Club or sign an Offer Sheet pursuant to this Article 10, except as
provided in Section 12.10.
CBA Article 12.2
12.2 Notice of Player Election of Salary Arbitration.
A Player (or a Player's Certified Agent, acting on the Player's behalf),
electing salary arbitration must do so by making a written request, in accordance with
Exhibit 3 hereto, utilizing the form attached hereto as Exhibit 23, by facsimile to Central
Registry, the NHLPA and the Player's Club by not later than 5:00 p.m. New York time on
July 5 in the League Year in which such Player is eligible for salary arbitration.
CBA Article 12.3
12.3 Eligibility for Club-Elected Salary Arbitration. Subject to subsections (c) and
(d) below and the eligibility requirements set forth in Article 12.1, a Club will have the
right to elect to take a Player to salary arbitration under the following conditions:
(a) Club-Elected Salary Arbitration For Players With Paragraph 1 NHL
Salaries plus Signing, Roster, and Reporting Bonuses
Greater Than $1,500,000 In The
Prior League Year.
(i) If a Player who is otherwise eligible to receive a Qualifying Offer
and become a Group 2 Restricted Free Agent had a Paragraph 1
NHL Salary plus Signing, Roster and Reporting Bonuses in excess
of $1,500,000 in the aggregate in the final League Year of his most
recent SPC, a Club may elect to file for salary arbitration to
determine the Player's Paragraph 1 Salary for the upcoming
League Year in lieu of making a Qualifying Offer to such Player.
(ii) In any salary arbitration that takes place pursuant to this Section
12.3(a), the Salary Arbitrator may not award the Player a
Paragraph 1 Salary that is less than eighty-five (85) percent of the
aggregate sum of Player's Paragraph 1 Salary plus Signing,
Reporting and Roster Bonuses in the final League Year of his most
(b) Club-Elected Salary Arbitration For Players Who Receive Qualifying
(i) If a Group 2 Restricted Free Agent has not accepted his Club's
Qualifying Offer, nor filed a request for Player-elected salary
arbitration in accordance with Section 12.2 above, the Club may
elect to file for salary arbitration to determine that Player's
Paragraph 1 Salary for that League Year.
(ii) If a Club elects salary arbitration in accordance with this
subsection, the Club's offer in salary arbitration must be equal to or
higher than the Player's aggregate Paragraph 1 Salary plus Signing,
Reporting and Roster Bonuses in the final League Year of the
Schneider ($900K salary in '11-'12) would not be eligible for Team Elected arbitration in Lieu of a QO (under 12.3(a)).
Instead, the 'Nucks will have to tender a QO, and then cannot file for team-elected arbitration (under 12.3(b)) until after the deadline for player elected arbitration (July 5).
This leaves a 5 day window where he can sign an Offer Sheet.
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