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05-05-2012, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dwreckm View Post
Actually, there kind of is, if you take into consideration the +/- stat. Players who are consistently creating an environment where there offense or defense can play effectively will have a good +/- stat.

As for the secondary assist, I like keeping it in, if only that it creates an environment where involving more team players gets more points spread around, and so defense and goalies can get on the points board more often.
Well yeah true about +/- but let's say you have two Gretzky's and two Bobby Orr's on a line with Charlie The plumber. Charlies stat's will look pretty damn good due to secondary assists and +/-. It just doesn't feel like an individual stat( yeah i know goalscoring is a team effort but you see my point?)

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