2011-2012 NBA/College Basketball Thread *Part II*
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05-07-2012, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by
German Way of War
None of what you wrote has anything to do with Fields' poor season. I find it hysterical that a simple comment about a guy's struggling season automatically evokes anti-Melo sentiment, and somehow Dantoni as well.
Just get over it already. The Knicks are better this year than last year. Melo had a huge role in them accomplishing that. Whether Melo dogged it for Dantoni or not, I really could care less. What I do care about is that he's not dogging it now.
First of all, you're being a hypocrite when you tell me to get over it. All you did was rag on D'Antoni. You still take pot shots at D'Antoni, despite the overwhelming evidence that points to D'Antoni being screwed over every step of the way. I don't understand how you can not care that your player purposely played like garbage for three months and cost your team a shot at having an extended playoff run. The Knicks should have been a 3rd-5th seed, and the biggest reason they weren't is because Anthony "dogged it" until D'Antoni left. Other than committing criminal acts, is there something worse that a professional athlete can do than "dog it," costing his team success?
Second of all, there is nothing to "get over." There is one very clear reason as to why Landry Fields' effectiveness dropped IN THE MIDDLE OF LAST SEASON: less ball movement and a slower pace, and it has little to do with his shooting. The pace slowed and the ball stopped moving as soon as Anthony got to the Knicks. Herego, Landry Fields struggles are a direct result of Anthony's presence. It makes no sense to rag on Fields without taking the circumstances around him into consideration. If you want to talk about Fields, you can't do so without bringing Anthony into the conversation.
Fields' games without Melo.
1/14 -- 1-for-7, 31 MINS
1/27 -- 4-for-12, 34 MINS
1/28 -- 0-for-2, 18 MINS
2/8 -- 6-for-11, 37 MINS
2/10 -- 1-for-7, 33 MINS
2/11 -- 8-for-10, 35 MINS
2/14 -- 3-for-9, 37 MINS
2/15 -- 6-for-8, 30 MINS
2/17 -- 1-for-8, 34 MINS
2/19 -- 6-for-12, 27 MINS
36-for-88, .375 PCT FG% without Melo dressed
200-for-425, .471 PCT FG% with Melo playing
There you have it -- Fields performed better with Melo in the lineup than without him.
There you have it - you ignored every single point I made (which includes the point about Fields not being a good shooter) and once again tossed a stat that has very little relevance here. You can't judge the performance of a player like Fields by looking at his field goal shooting percentage. Landry Fields isn't a scorer. That's not why the Knicks drafted him. When he leaves the Knicks and goes on to be a successful role player elsewhere, his value will not be as a scorer. Landry Fields' value is as a rebounder and a guy who can help you push the tempo up court, and be a good perimeter defender who uses his length to swarm smaller guards and cut down on passing lanes.
And your whole criticism of him was to say he was a dumb player and a terrible decision maker. What does that even have to do with shooting? Especially for a guy who averages less than 8 shot attempts per game, and whose FG% dropped from .49 to .46, not an enormous dropoff.
The fact is that Woodson cut Fields minutes because he was struggling, where Dantoni kept playing him 30 mins a game.
Again, how is it Melo's fault that Fields has been struggling, when any Knick fan can tell you that he has been inconsistent from start to finish?
You keep leaving out incredibly important chunks of information. Mike Woodson doesn't have an offensive system. He lets Anthony basically do whatever he wants offensively. D'Antoni had a system predicated on passing and running. Fields was a good fit for that system. Why would he take him out? Fields wasn't the reason the system wasn't working. Anthony was, because Anthony doesn't like to pass or run. When Woodson took over, the pace became even slower than it had been, so obviously Fields was not going to succeed.
Not to mention that D'Antoni didn't have Baron Davis and he only had JR Smith, another player who refuses to do anything but shoot the ball whenever he feels like it, for a short period of time. And he only had Lin for a short period of time, which is when Fields played his best ball of the season. No coincidence that he played his best when the ball moved and the tempo was higher.
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