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05-26-2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by
I understand your point. Sutter and Bolland bring other intangibles. I said that several times already. Once again I was speaking purely about point production, then about Jeffrey and a top 6 winger vs Bolland/Sutter. There was no misinformation there. You simply want to pump up Sutter and that's fine, but if you want to use what I said as a slight agt him you are really reaching.
Ironically you admonish me for undervaluing Bolland/Sutter, then you make a blanket statement about what Jeffrey can be.
But why limit the role of a shutdown C to point production? Makes no sense and we both know that, and it's always been the pro-Staal argument by Pens fans. Come on, let's be real here.
No, I'm not pumping up Sutter and I'm not advocating a trade for Staal. Did you see where I criticized Sutter for being inconsistent and not being a good playmaker? Not sure how that constitutes trying to pump him up.
Merely pointing out that you undervalued him and Bolland by ignoring their leadership and defensive skills while projecting what you think a favorite of yours like Jeffrey
do. Yes, I stated Jeffrey would never be a shutdown center. I also said he wouldn't be a consistent point producer. Keep in mind, you havce him on the 3rd line where he'll be playing with weak wings and not getting PP time, just like Jordan Staal. So are you saying you think he will be a shutdown center and a consistent point producer?
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And, that's perfectly fair (just like Stormcast's critique of Staal's game). But, let's say, for the sake of argument, that Shero is willing to move Staal and that Rutherford is sufficiently enamored to make Sutter and the 8th overall part of the package. If there is a deal to be made, then I think it's safe to say it's something like Sutter, the 8th overall, and a defenseman (consensus seems to be McBain) for Staal and Martin. Again, leaving aside whether Rutherford should do it or should be enamored with Staal, I think that's where he'll be willing to go. Thing is, I'm not sure Shero won't push for a little more, and I'm not sure another team won't.
I wouldn't be in favor of that deal. You lose an asset with the 1st round pick, a shutdown C with an A, and a really good RH Dman to take on tons more salary. That severely limits the Canes in trading for the real need, a top-flight winger. I'd rather trade McBain and the 1st pick for a top winger and use Ruutu, Jokinen or Skinner as the 2C.
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