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05-27-2012, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by heartsabres View Post
dude you really dont know how to read stats....points per 60 minutes means squat, if you play less minutes it allows you to have less points but at then end of the day it does not matter points per 60 it matters points for how many minutes you actually play. if you play 10 minutes a game and scored 25 points for the season your points per 60 will seem like you are Bobby Orr. BUT if you take a player who plays 22 minuters per game and scores 48 points he will have a lower points per 60. You will end up with the wrong player. JAME you would take the 25 point player based on his points per 60?
again, i would look at the entire picture, and understand as much about the context of the statistics as possible... that's why i know what i am talking about

per 60 means a lot, its a very good indicator... the fact that every single stat that doesn't support your opinion "means squat" to you, is quite telling

good job using an example that makes no sense (25 pt/10 min per game defensemen). even if such anexample existed, try to remember how i've insisted that CONTEXT is critical when using advanced stats.

In theory I understand what you are trying to say but players stats are based on TOI
this is what counts
good point, well thought out... you got me

by the way i watched Langway play(i even had his rookie card) and you should not be shocked because you are missing something your stats dont show....HEART, DRIVE, CLUTCH, CHEMISTRY, LEADERSHIP, PHYSICAL PLAY
can you show me where those stats are?
Scott Stevens.....I dont care what is corsi is and it shouldnt matter I draw my conclusions based on ON ICE PLAY.
make sure you stay inside the lines when drawing your conclusions

this is not MONEYBALL when they hand out the Norris trophy the ones I bolded count most.
agred. points count too much in the Norris voting

I am not going to slander you like you do me, they are great tools but you cannot play moneyball with the game hockey, you will lose, there is more to a player, like the bolded. Everyone slagged on Satan because he scored goals when it did not count but Drury scores goals when it counts. Where is this stat?
it's under Game Winning or Game Tying Goals... or you can look at goals by period, goals when trailing, goals when leading, etc...

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