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05-30-2012, 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FreddieBisco View Post
A list of defenseman who are easily better then Andrej Sekera. Went team by team basis on determining if they are more skilled/productive then Sekera.

Lubomir Visnovsky ANA - yes
Francois Beauchemin ANA - lol no. Not the same player from ANA Cup run
Zdeno Chara BOS - yes
Tyler Myers BUF - yes (but weaker season, which is the point of the thread)
Christian Ehrhoff BUF - same as Myers
Jay Bouwmeester CGY - perpetual loser, but whatever floats your boar
Mark Giordano CGY - debatable
Joni Pitkanen CAR - at this point, debatable
Duncan Keith CHI - yes
Brent Seabrook CHI - yes
Niclas Hjalmarsson CHI - debatable
Erik Johnson COL - yes
Jack Johnson CBJ - no
James Wisniewski CBJ - no
Alex Goligoski DAL - no
Niklas Lidstrom DET - yes
Niklas Kronwall DET - yes
Ryan Whitney EDM - no
Brian Campbell FLA - yes
Dmitry Kukilov FLA - no (more potential)
Drew Doughty LA - yes
Willie Mitchell LA -no
Tom Gilbert MIN - no
Andrei Markov MTL - yes (except he hasn't played in 12 years)
PK Subban MTL - debatable (overhyped)
Shea Weber NSH - yes
Ryan Suter NSH - yes
Anton Volchenkov NJ - no
Mark Streit NYI - debatable
Travis Hamonic NYI - no (more potential)
Ryan McDonagh NYR - debatable
Dan Girardi NYR - debatable (the guy was a dud in every playoff year prior to this one)
Marc Staal NYR - yes
Erik Karlsson OTT - yes
Sergei Gonchar OTT - no
Filip Kuba OTT - no
Braydon Coburn PHI - not really, no
Chris Pronger PHI (If healthy) - yes (but he's done)
Matt Carle PHI - no
Kimmo Timonen PHI - yes
Keith Yandle PHX - yes
Oliver Ekman-Larsson PHX - yes
Kris Letang PIT - yes
Paul Martin PIT - lol no
Zbynek Michalek PIT - yes
Dan Boyle SJ - yes
Brent Burns SJ - yes
Marc-Edouard Vlasic SJ - debatable
Alex Pietrangelo STL - yes
Kevin Shattenkirk STL - debatable (potential's there)
Victor Hedman TB - no (more potential)
Eric Brewer TB - IMO nah, at worst debatable
Dion Phaneuf TOR - yeah I guess
Jake Gardiner TOR - no
Alex Edler VAN - yes
Sami Salo VAN - no
Dan Hamhuis VAN - yes
Kevin Bieksa VAN - yes
Dennis Wideman WSH - no
Mike Green WSH - yes
John Carlson WSH - debatable
Dustin Byfuglien WPG - lol no...
Tobias Enstrom WPG - yes

This is over 60 defenseman who are hands down better then Sekera.
Hands down better according to who?
I checked your list, and the number of defensemen who are "hands down better" dwindles down to about 30.

But again, as other people have repeatedly said, that's not the point of the thread.

On paper, Myers and Ehrhoff are better, but Rej had a better season.

How the hell is that so difficult to understand, seriously?

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