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06-07-2012, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Duke Silver View Post
Ridiculous. People are letting their desperation for a #1 goalie cloud their judgment.
Originally Posted by Pi View Post

Schenn + 2013 first for Luongo..

might as well add the 5th this year!
I'm not sure how high you two are on Schenn, but he's a borderline top-4 defenseman in the NHL in my opinion. I don't see the offensive upside that some people see. His skating, decision making, and shooting are huge problems, and it goes without saying that those are all important attributes for an NHL player to have. It's obvious he's been working on his shot, and maybe if he loses a little bit of weight he can gain back some speed that he had in his rookie season, but he's not that valuable to our team in my opinion. Gunnarsson, Gardiner, & Phaneuf are clearly better. Liles is older and plays a different game, so it's hard to compare him to Schenn, but I'd say he's more valuable at this point as well. Again, I don't see the potential in Schenn that others see. Is he really a better option than Franson/Holzer? If we acquired Luongo, I think we have a good chance of making the playoffs, so I don't think Schenn + 18th overall (for example) is that bad of a deal. Luongo won't be traded to us for a package like Franson + 2013 second round pick, and I don't think a goalie like Lindback or Harding is the answer. We need a legit number one goalie to make any noise whatsoever, and trading Schenn and a mid-first round pick isn't that big of a deal. A mid-first round pick typically takes years to pan out, so we'd probably be looking at someone who is ready for 2015? 2016? Again, I believe Luongo would push us into the playoff picture. If you still believe we'd finish in the bottom ten, then I can understand not wanting to trade Schenn + the 2013 first.

EDIT: I also don't think Vancouver is backed into a corner with Luongo, and I don't think his contract is that bad. Gillis doesn't have a gun to his head that says he has to trade Luongo to Toronto. There's going to be interest from a few other teams, and he always has the option of trading Schneider or trying to ride out the tandem for another season. There are also ways around keeping him for a 5.3 cap hit when he's 41 years old.

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