The Good, the Bad, and the Matt Carle
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06-08-2012, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by
No, Carle couldn't. Carle was the weak link on the Pronger pairing and other teams' top players would routinely abuse him. There's a reason he looks much better on a lower lower pairing facing lesser competition. Putting him back on a top line with Weber just means we'd have to spend more time watching other teams avoid Weber by taking it past Carle or dumping it into his side to abuse him along the boards. I'd rather not put a soft guy on the top pairing again.
Carle supporters used to notice that Carle looked better when he was playing away from Pronger after he was injured; some of them went so far as to say Pronger was somehow dragging Carle down. The reality was that without Pronger Carle was no longer facing top lines so he wasn't getting outclassed anymore.
So, no. No more top pairings for Carle please.
Originally Posted by
Yep, which doesn't really get the job done. The problem people have with Carle is where and when he turns it over, more than sheer numbers. Not all turnovers are created equal, and more often than not when a defenseman tries to clear it through the slot only to set up a great scoring chance for the opponent...it's Carle; Timonen, Coburn and Mez aren't known for that sort of thing, but Carle has earned a reputation for it. Most d-men will go for safe plays. Seems like Carle does the dangerous play often. Sometimes it works, sometimes it leads to horrible things.
No the problem is that the Carle haters want to continually try and change the game and come up with some other method of rating him as a player, that has no factual basis. In order to try and justify their unjustified hate for the player. There is plenty of factual information out that there that Carle supporters use to back up their opinion. Regardless of what the number say, you'll try and find some way to spin it to try and discredit Carle. And fail each time. Carle is a very good player. And that's why the Flyers want to re-sign him.
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