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06-10-2012, 09:28 PM
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I think heading into the off-season, this is the biggest hole that the Avalanche currently have on their roster. The only other area that might give it a run is on the wings, but we're still ok in that area now with the likes of Downie, McGinn, Mueller, Landeskog, Hejduk and Jones back in the mix for next year.
I think it's safe to say the ideal fit for the team is UFA Ryan Suter. It's almost a lock that he'll be leaving the Predators, hitting the open market and likely locking down a huge deal.
We have an ideal spot for him, on the left hand side, beside Erik Johnson. They're both Americans and we have the cash to spend, but I think it's a pipe-dream to expect him to sign in Denver.
My bet is that he lands in Detroit, taking up the spot left vacant by the retiring Nick Lidstrom. It just makes too much sense for it to not happen
But that list includes the guy I want the most, Jason Garrison. He would play on our top PP, play 24+ minutes a night, move the puck well and defend ok. He would essentially be the guy that the organization hoped Kyle Quincey would become. With that being said, I expect him to also sign elsewhere. Probably Vancouver, because he has already expressed a known interest of landing there.
The list above doesn't include the one guy I just have a hunch we'll be after. That guy is Matt Carle, a player who has spent the last few years playing with the Flyers.
He's 27 years old, a left handed shot, played 23 minutes per night last season and is coming off of 3 straight seasons of 35+ points.
He's not a great defender, but he fits what we need. A left handed puck mover who can play minutes. It was clear that we went through long stretches this season without getting good pucking moving play from our D. That's why Matt Hunwick stuck out so much this year, because he did an alright job of it. He will still fill that role as a bottom pairing guy. He's not able to play big minutes.
I think ideally we would want a guy who is better defensively than Carle is, but the options are limited. I'm still comfortable with the rest of our D's ability to play defensively, guys like Hejda, O'Byrne, Johnson and Wilson are all good enough for now.
So in my opinion they will go after Carle, with him eventually signing somewhere in July for 4-5 years at roughly $4 or $5 million per season.
Who do you think this team could be after?
- As others have stated, I certainly don't think it's a slam dunk in Detroit. I'm quite certain that players can see that Detroit is by no means guaranteed to continue being a top team. Datsyuk is going to be 34, Zetterberg 32...these guys are going to start to slow down at some point and they've just lost arguably the best defenseman the game has ever seen. Those are some mighty big shoes to fill and the expectations WILL be there, you can believe it.
- I have to disagree with Garrison. I do think he ends up signing a fairly big deal but I think it's probably going to be with a team like...Dallas or something. That's when I'll get the popcorn ready because I can't wait to see this guy try to live up to a big, fat contract after essentially only two and half years in the league. Hey, I hope I'm wrong and the guy does well but I'm pretty much expecting another Jeff Finger situation although not THAT bad. For whatever reason, I can see him joining the WRONG 'fit' and going for the highest dollar and it just won't end well.
- I've been saying Matt Carle for a long while now but to fit in as our EVENTUAL #3 guy. He might need to play top pairing minutes next season because that guy hasn't arrived yet. (unless we actually DO get Suter)
To answer your question, I feel that if we miss out on Suter, we might make an eventual trade for a guy like Marc Staal as long as he's fully healthy. This might come at next year's deadline or next summer but if that were to happen, expect the Avs to part with an important piece to get him.
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I really just cannot see Suter signing in Detroit. Everything that has been said about how highly he values his family and what he wants in the city he mvoes to just makes me think there no chance he goes to Detroit.
Especially after what Poile said the other day, I just cant see him going to Detroit.
I think its either Nashville,
, or Minnesota for Suter, each city fits what his family wants/needs and all have the money to spend on him.
For some reason, I was thinking that he would sign in San Jose but the Stuart trade pretty much rules that out. I think the Avs have a really good chance of landing Suter, (better than what people think) I think the area is what he's looking for, the franchise is on the rise for the foreseeable future and the expectations on him will not be anything close to what he'd get in a bigger market.
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I hate to support Detroit here, but as someone who lives in the greater Philadelphia region I have to state this.
Just because the city sucks, doesn't mean the regions outside the city wouldn't be what Suter is interested in. I have no idea what the suburban areas are like outside Detroit, but it isn't out of the question for rich people to purchase lavish homes a half hour outside where they play and settle down there.
In fact, most Philly sports stars live in NJ. I would assume most Detroit sports stars live outside of Detroit.
It's not really about living in a specific neighborhood but rather than a general area. Suter's played as a visitor in both cities and if all we're hearing is true, (easy-going farmboy type and all that) Colorado is a MUCH better fit than Detroit. Minnesota is probably a similar fit to Colorado but being from that area, does he really want to go back 'home'? (I don't know the answer to that but not all players want to move to Vancouver to sign for the minimum like Sakic
Having said all that, I'm not really expecting the Avs to sign Ryan Suter July 1st but if it were to happen, I wouldn't be surprised. All things being equal (term+yearly wage) he could do a lot worse than plan to raise his family in Colorado for the next 7-8 years.
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