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Originally Posted by 35NW8ING
It is a fact because they didn't win a cup with that first pairing.
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It is a fact that they didn't win the Cup that Season. It's not a fact that they can't win a Cup with Carle on a top pair. That's simply your opinion.
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Originally Posted by 35NW8ING
I guess you missed the end of my previous reply.....smart ones anyway. Yes a dumb GM would hang onto a guy he knew he couldn't or wouldn't be resigning, and letting him walk for nothing. Teams have even started trading "negotiating rights" just to get something instead of nothing.
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How do players reach Free Agency then? There must be a lot of dumb GM's then. Because there are top quality players that reach Free Agency every year. Remember that history that you talked about?
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Originally Posted by 35NW8ING
Again, semantics. Quantity is irrelevant, were only talking about replacing Carle. All it takes is one to be available. An educated guess by any rational person would be that there is at least one defensemen on one of the 29 other teams that is as good as or better than Carle, and is available via trade. There are also UFA's.
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It's not semantics at all. And quantity is certainly relevant. Because chances are your not the only team that is going to be looking to improve and add a top 4 quality defenseman. How many defenseman that are equal to Carle are available as a UFA? So you really think that there is one top 4 NHL defenseman from every team that is available? It's worse then I thought it was.
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Originally Posted by 35NW8ING
Haven't seen any reports of the market being dry for 2nd pairing defensemen this summer.
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Didn't say it was dry. How many defenseman of the same quality as Carle are going to be available. We read all the time from professional NHL people that a lot of teams are looking for defense. That means it's in high demand, and not easy to get. You couldn't possibly be more wrong here.
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Originally Posted by 35NW8ING
How many changed hands is irrelevant. The question would be, how many teams were shopping for 2nd pairing defensemen, and was the market non existent last summer.
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It's absolutely relevant. Because by your statement that it is easy to replace, suggests that there are many available. Again, that is incorrect. And any observer that is in touch with the League, is aware that it isn't easy. It's not impossible, and it can happen. But they are at a premium and the cost is high.