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06-24-2012, 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by NYR Sting View Post
There can only be so many wingers (or any position) that are elite, or else there ceases to be a difference between elite and whatever comes after it: great...good...above average...whatever you want to call it.

How many elite wingers are there?

Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Hossa, D. Sedin, St. Louis, Kane, Perry, Parise, Eriksson, Nash, Iginla. Arguably Gaborik and Kessel.

You have to rank those guys above Ryan. Maybe not in terms of age or contract, but in terms of today.

So, again, how many guys get to be called elite? In my opinion, that term is reserved for a select few. Ryan would be one of the guys who would come right after those guys. He's a very, very good player.
Last 4 years

Ovechkin 176G 369P
Kovalchuk 152G 319P
Perry 146G 306P
Iginla 142G 311P
Nash 135G 271P
Kessel 135G 261P
Ryan 131G 249P
D Sedin 131G 338P
Ericsson 118G 278P
Gaborik 118G 233P (made of glass)
Parise 117G 245P (injury year)
Hossa 117G 256P
MSL 115G 347P
Kane 105G 297P

Overall points, yes, he's 3rd tier. But as a goal scoring wing he's pretty clearly in the mix for the 2nd tier group, if he actually got 1st PP time those goal numbers would likely be in the Perry-Kovalchuk region (assuming he could get 5 G a year). (Obviously Parise and Gaborik numbers are skewed due to injury).

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