Mendes: Sundin should wait for hall of fame.
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06-27-2012, 07:09 AM
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Err...I thought I was clear on this but looks like I wasn't. Probably the reason I am not a lawyer or scientist.
I thought I said when he was a Leaf, to illustrate how pathetically the organization surrounded him with well...not much.
So that leaves out the first 4 years in the NHL as a Nord.
Which leaves I think 13/25?
And leaves out the last year he played in the NHL with the half year he played as a Canuck.
Which leaves 11/25?
And I'm fairly sure I said those he played with as his wingers...though considering how errr..inept they were as defensive D's, they probably may have done rather well as forwards...anyhow that leaves a further 9/25?
So that leaves
(sorry, didn't really include Andreychuk)
So I stand corrected, I totally forgot about Thomas and Allison, thank you for that.
Though I did ask for elite wingers that were in their primes that played with Sundin (for the record that leaves the offensive juggernaut that is the shoe in future HHOF, ultra mega elite, 35pt average Tucker...ooo, ahhh...err...).
For the record, if he stayed a Nord he probably would have had a glorious career. Unfortunately he played most of his career as a Leaf and was supported by either old, past their prime, often injured, past elite players (Mogilny, Thomas etc.) or some great offensive D's (Kaberle and McCabe). Oh, and also some great goaltenders (though some would also say past their prime, old etc.). These veteran forwards are usually brought in to help the up and coming young players, bring experience and provide secondary or tertiary offence...not to 'be' the offence...except for Toronto...which is some of the reasons why Toronto hasn't won a cup in a fairly long time.
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Here are Sundin's scrub teammates compared to say, Alfredsson's juggernaut teammates (60+ points):
Andreychuk 38 (65)
Ridley 37 (63)
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