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06-28-2012, 01:18 PM
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im not positive, but the number of NHL defenseman who can physically scare the crap out of team with his hitting, protect teammates as a legit heavyweight, and play a regular shift can probably be counted on 1 hand....and frankly very few players do all 3. Chara has ragdolled a bunch of ppl so nobody ever wants to fight him....Weber i havent seen fight much, but in what ive seen, hes looked like an average fighter...i could be wrong. Phaneuf is probably the best example of all 3, except hes more of a middleweight than a heavyweight since he usually wont fight the big boys, but will drop the gloves when asked upon by the average fighter. Carkner is a helluva fighter, but he CAN NOT be counted upon to take regular shifts...same with John Scott. Jeff Beukeboom was a freak of nature...legit top 4 defenseman, legit monster hitter, legit fighter. That combination is very, very unique, don't be fooled. Just because so many guys are taken who are supposed to have those aspects doesnt mean it comes to fruition...players like these are damn near impossible to find.
I hated the McIlrath pick, I still do, because its an enormous gamble with such a high pick. But if he turns out to be a guy who can hit like he can hit, fight like he can fight, AND play regular minutes without you being on pins and needles (E.G. Garnet Exelby), it would be a homerun of a pick.
Good comments, agreed on alot of points here.
Another point I'm glad you brought up is the fact that theres a reason a Beukeboom hasnt been around for awhile - they are also very very rare. If they exist no one wants to let them go. DM was a risk, risks are fine by me if you have some form of depth, but a risk towards natural skill over physical ability is usual what I'd favor.
Maybe we are seeing a new mold of Dmen like DM. He can skate, can be physical, throw hard hits, but ability to work with the puck on both sides of the puck is pretty crucial and sought after in todays game, no? Look around, most teams would love big mobile Dmen who punish, but who ends up on top pairings? Smooth reliable all arounders who can handle the puck. And the lot of them do play mean, just clean, no goon factor.
Dan Girardi is known as just an okay puckhandler. That's crazy to me, he may not rush it up the ice but his ability to maneuver the puck out of harms way is vital to his/team success. He plays the body very well, but he's not what you call a beast. Is that really whats needed anyway? Look at LA, solid puckmovers top 4, hard hitting smart positional guys on the bottom pair.
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