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Brandon Prust to Montreal [4 years, $10M]
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07-07-2012, 07:08 PM
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Originally Posted by
These intangibles have to become tangible at
point. We now have people tracking shot differential when players are on and off ice, which zones players start in, what level of competition and teammates they are on the ice with, as well as the traditional hockey card stats. Even if the player's impact has more to do with his influence on others than his puck skills, that can be measured by his team's performance when he is on the ice. For example, we know that Ryan White has a more positive effect than Ben Maxwell ever did, and it has nothing to do with their respective puck skills. We have numbers that can tell us that White does a better job influencing Hab puck possession and zone time. Prust does fine by these numbers too, but not much better than White, Moen or Darche. Not enough to justify his new contract.
Unless your point is that the "trust" created by Prust's 12 minutes per game was partly responsible for Richards', Callahan's and Gaborik's high quality 20 minutes, even when Prust was not on the ice at the same time as the really good Rangers... in case, I would just say you're taking the Don Cherry narrative of the grinder being responsible for wins too far.
edit: BTW, I realize you (and others) are responding to my reply to a poster who brought up Prust's g-a-pts-pim totals. I don't actually believe these numbers are the best measure of a player like Prust's (or any player's, really) effect on play. I was just willing to debate on another poster's terms, as even by those standards Prust doesn't measure up to the contract. However, a non-scoring forward's impact should show up in Corsi, zone shift and scoring chance numbers, and the difficulty of his role should show up in zone starts, qualcomp and qualteam numbers.
How do you measure the impact of a guy who makes team meals more enjoyable?
How do you quantify the impact a 4th line grinder who outworks everyone in practice/camp while making peanuts, on a blue chip draft pick already earning more money?
Huge assumption, and false, that measuring on-ice impact gives one the full picture.
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