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Originally Posted by Jules Winnfield
What are you talking about? The Hill is directly connected to downtown through 5th Avenue and Centre.
This is such a moot point to even discuss. You're inferring as if the arena makes downtown inaccessible from the Hill, which can't be any further than the truth.
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5th ave doesn't go through the Hill. It goes through Uptown, and then through Oakland. Center Ave doesn't go through the Hill. It borders it, but doesn't go through it. Wylie Ave goes right through the heart of the Hill district. It's directly in the middle. So any of those residents looking to get into the city on the northern side of the Hill, they have to walk all the way to the southern part to catch a bus on Center, or take more than one bus to get where they were going.
It's not a moot point at all. And I never said it made downtown inaccessible, but what did do is break up a huge traffic artery in the Hill. I mean, think about it in the Strip district on a Sunday when they shut down parts of the streets. Sure, I can get around just fine. It's just much more of a pain in the ass.
You also missed the point being made about Wylie being a street where a ton of business is in the Hill. That's part of the example of using Walnut St and E Carson. You take out those businesses on those streets and it'd cripple that section of the city. People wouldn't go there, and the area would lose a huge part of it's identity. That's what happened when they put the arena in. The Hill lost a ton of culture and revenue.
I also see this as someone looking for a freebee, but you can't overlook the fact that in the past, the city really screwed the Hill District residents over, which is why I have a problem with the Hill attacking the Pens. They Pens have nothing to do with this...the city does.