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07-29-2012, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Lafleurs Guy View Post
Management and coaching matter for sure. But draft position can help to mitigate poor management.

How great a coach do you have to be when you're sitting there coaching Malkin, Crosby, Staal and Fleury? It doesn't really matter. All you have to do is just keep those guys and you'll at least have a contending team. We've seen terrible management win cups despite themselves... why? Draft position. Combine draft position WITH good management and you're in really good shape. Its not one or the other... its both.

Too bad you still don't understand this.

As for Edmonton, you get the best players you can. Period. Doesn't matter if the best players are always at forward. You take Yakupov no matter what. Then you wait and see and maybe make some trades down the road. Again, not sure what it is that you think you've proven here except the fact that you really don't know what you're talking about.
There are two glaring (more, but I will focus on two right now) examples staring you in the face that dispute what you are saying.

1. Columbus. An average of pick #5 in the first round for 12 years. And still a lottery team. Management problems? Yes. Drafting position problem? No.

2. Boston. Only FIVE (5) top ten 1st round draft picks since 2000. Here they are........

2000 Lars Jonsson (#7) -- Not on Stanley Cup winning team.
2006 Phil Kessel (#5) -- Not on Stanley Cup winning team.
2007 Zach Hamill (#8) -- On roster. Had one point all season.
2010 Tyler Seguin (#2) -- Played on Stanley Cup winning team. Seven points in the playoffs. A non-factor.
2011 Dougie Hamilton (#9) -- Did not play in NHL.

So how did Boston win the Cup?

They won with their 2nd and 3rd round players....Krejchi, Bergeron, Lucic, Marchand stepping up their game. They won with their trades and acqusitions......Horton, Ryder, Recchi, Kelly, Peverly, Paille, Campbell AND Tim Thomas stepping up their game.

Sorry man. You have been exposed to Gainey and Gauthier for so long that you have forgotten that a shrewd and savvy General Manager can build a Stanley Cup winning team without the idiotic notion of tanking and/or relying soley upon draft position.

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