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07-30-2012, 12:49 PM
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What i find interesting is how do you measure players in terms of a certain quality when some players are a product of their own environment.

I like to use Renberg as an example. If you take the early part of his career he was a consistant 50 pts + player with the Flyers. Most of his success was because he played on one of the best lines in the league. Take him out of that environment and he's barely an NHL caliber player. How does one measure this? Anson Carter would be another good example.

Same with goaltenders. In gereral, a goaltender playing in a defensive system will get better numbers statistically. They will also in most cases get more shutouts than a team playing a more offensive style.

Is Mike Smith better than Bryzgalov? Did Brian Elliott become an all star caliber goaltender overnight or are they the primary benefactor in playing a system that makes life easier for them.

I find sabremetrics incredibly fascinating because I find it difficult to measure something when it seems there are endless variables.

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