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08-03-2012, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Teufelsdreck View Post
McDonagh was lost not because he wasn't developed properly (he never played a game for the Habs) but because of Gainey's frantic tearing apart of the Habs and his desire to bring in Gomez. As I recall, Beauchemin and Hainsey were lost because of front office administrative blunders.

I think you're assuming Woe-ber could be another Mark Streit.Sadly, he's been inadequate as a Dman and PP point specialist in both scoring and setting up forwards. He couldn't protect the point and was helpless against shoerthanded breakaways. In his own end he was frequently outmuscled and wasn't effective in clearing the puck. Diaz and St=Denis outshone him. The Habs have several inexperienced Dman prospects who probably couldn't be much worse than Woe-ber as injury replacements.

Woe-ber was a third round pick. I would be pleased to exchange him for a 2013 third rounder (or maybe even a fourth).
If he's garbage on the 3rd worse team in the league why would any other team give up a 3rd rounder? You mean the Columbus Blue Jackets' 3rd rounder?

A better analogy is Ryan O'Byrne. He has worked out quite well. We complained that he wasn't working in Montreal but we didn't use him properly. He's now a top-4 dman on the Colorado Avalanche, a superior team to the Montreal Canadiens. He played some 220 minutes on the PK, over 3 minutes per game, that's awesome. We could have used a shutdown dman of his caliber last year. We could use one now.

Some rookies need a bit of time and space, so give it to them, it pays off, it's a long-term investment. Another example is Kyle Chipchura. He averaged 10:31 per game last year, on a Phoenix Coyotes team that is superior to the Montreal Canadiens, just like Colorado. He had 3 goals and 13 assists, that is excellent secondary scoring for a guy who played 558 minutes. In contrast, our 4th line center, Petteri Nokelainen, had 3 goals and 4 assists in 493 minutes. Our other 4th line center, Scott Gomez, had 2 goals and 9 assists in 537 minutes. We could really use his secondary offensive production on the 4th line, as we could his size and physicality.

Whatever Weber had a bad first year, give him time, we have nothing to lose.

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