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Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe View Post
That's a good pick. I was really surprised to see Billy Breen drafted ahead of him, but I'd be interested to hear the justification
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I'll edit it in shortly but the cliffnotes are he led the league in scoring five times and had lesser teammates than McGimsie, Bain, Scanlan etc.

Breen also produced against the Silver Seven when his Rowing Club squad faced them in '04 so it's not like he was just racking the numbers up against the Manitobans. He was also their captain but that wasn't a consideration when comparing to McGimsie. Basically I think Iain Fyffe was spot on when he called Breen underrated in that HoH thread.

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Originally Posted by Manitoba HHOF
Breen was the scoring champion 5 times during the first decade of 20th century hockey in Manitoba, a place where many all-time greats played. For example, he edged out Tommy Phillips and Billy McGimsie for the scoring title in 1906 with his 26 goals in 9 games. Back in 1902 he finished 2nd in scoring to Scanlan, who unlike Breen played with two greats Bain and Gingras.
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Originally Posted by Me
Hockeyreference has McGimsie's numbers. It's not very close and when you consider Breen didn't have the elite talent with him it's clear he was better imo. Breen also produced against the Silver 7 in a losing Cup effort, which is more than we can say for Weldy. Breen also played in the decade right after Young so his only downside was being in Manitoba rather than out east.

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Originally Posted by Seventieslord
Skater Statistics Regular Season Playoffs

Season Team League Tournament No. GP G A P PIM GP G A P PIM

1899-1900 Winnipeg Winnipegs WSrHL -- 3 2 1 3 0 -- -- -- -- --

1900-1901 Winnipeg Winnipegs WSrHL -- 4 4 * 0 4 * 0 -- -- -- -- --

1901-1902 Winnipeg Winnipegs WSrHL -- 3 4 1 5 * 4 -- -- -- -- --

1902-1903 Winnipeg Rowing Club WSrHL -- 6 10 * 3 13 2 -- -- -- -- --

1903-1904 Winnipeg Rowing Club WSrHL -- 5 20 * 3 23 * 4 -- -- -- -- --

Winnipeg Rowing Club WSrHL St-Cup -- -- -- -- -- 3 3 0 3 --

1904-1905 Winnipeg Rowing Club MHL Sr. -- 7 19 1 20 9 -- -- -- -- --

1905-1906 Winnipeg Winnipegs MHL Sr. -- 9 26 * 3 29 * 9 -- -- -- -- --

1906-1907 Winnipeg Winnipegs WSrHL -- 5 20 * 1 21 * 0 -- -- -- -- --

1907-1908 Winnipeg Strathconas MHL Pro -- 12 24 11 * 35 9 -- -- -- -- --

1908-1909 Winnipeg Winnipegs MHL Pro -- 1 4 2 6 0 -- -- -- -- --

Totals 55 133 26 159 37 3 3 0 3 0
2.90 PPG

McGimsie's numbers
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Originally Posted by Hockeyreference
Season Team League Tournament GP G A P PIM
1901-02 Rat Portage Thistles MNWHA-Int 4 8 0 8 0
1902-03 Rat Portage Thistles MNWHA 4 10 0 10
1903-04 Rat Portage Thistles MNWHA 11 14 2 16
1904-05 Rat Portage Thistles MHL 8 28 0 28 3
1905-06 Kenora Thistles MHL 9 21 0 21
1906-07 Kenora Thistles MHL-Pro 2 2 0 2
Totals: 38 GP 83 G 2 A 85 PTS 2.16 PPG


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