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08-18-2012, 12:23 AM
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Suchy and Sixties Soviets

Originally Posted by TheDevilMadeMe View Post
I'm going to wind down this conversation soonb since it has very little to do with MLD players. But I have to respond briefly to these claims.

1)351 PIMs in 561 league games is all the evidence you have of lack of discipline for Suchy? Pretty weak.

2) The balance or lack thereof of the Soviet league isn't particularly important when we are talking about someone who led the league in goals multiple times. It would be relevant to margins of leading, not the fact of leading. Seriously, the Soviet National Team completely wiped the floor with the Swedish National Team (and everyone else) in the mid-late 60s, but your claim is that Sweden actually had better players because the Soviets tended to hoard their best players on the same team in their respective domestic leagues? Makes no sense.

You admitted that Suchy was a drunk. Athletes who are drunks off the ice are not reliable on the ice or on a team. Not in condition to practice, require special considerations which eventually undermine team morale and performance. Phil Esposito was pretty explicit about this when talking about the Bruins and their lack of SC success.

Unless you actually saw the Swedes, Czechs and Soviets from the sixties play in Canada or televised international games. Add 6 solid minor leaguers including a good goalie to a middling junior team and the Soviet National team was very mortal playing to a .500 record even though they had the advantage of international rules.
Play them against a first year pro post Memorial Cup alumni / junior team and they get beat 9-3.

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