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08-20-2012, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Lagoon View Post
Yet somehow the best ones tend to have the lowest GAAs and highest save %s, and the worst have the highest GAAs and lowest save %s.

Strange coincidence that.
Not at all, the problem is that oftentimes "the best" goalies are determined to be that way because of their stats, not their play. On top of that, a fantastic goalie on a terrible team is usually considered to be bad, regardless of their play (e.g. Carey Price). Meanwhile, a terrible goalie on a good team is regarded as being good (e.g. Jimmy Howard).

All you need to see how useless goalie stats are for leaguewide comparisons is to look at a few journeyman goalies. Craig Anderson is a good example. Unless you think that a plane ride from Colorado to Ottawa suddenly turned him into a star in 10-11 (His stats improved by 1.23 GAA and 0.042 Sv%) it's pretty apparent that those stats measure something other than the goalie's play. His move from Chicago to Florida (although over an offseason) had a similar jump. Then suddenly he was mediocre, then terrible in Colorado.

Grabbing just random other goalies here: Roloson's trade to Edmonton improved his GAA by 0.57. Dan Ellis left Nashville and his stat line degraded 0.24 and 0.020 until he moved to Anaheim where it jumped back up 0.54 and 0.28. Mike Smith, good in Dallas, awful in Tampa, great in Phoenix.

The fact of the matter is goalie stats don't rate the goalie. They rate mostly the defensive play of the team in front of them. They're certainly not useful for comparing goalies across divisions, much less across the entire league.

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