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Does Bobby Ryan's value = PK Subban's value ?
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08-24-2012, 12:43 AM
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At this point... not even close.
Ryan doesn't really have anything "wrong" with him per se. He just needs to find a consistent role and a decent centre. Move him to a team where he'll be the #1 winger, and he'll prove the investment worthwhile. At the very least, he'll be a 1-man productivity generator for the line he's on, and not cause any problems. There's no real knocks on his game. He's also a highly proven (and remarkably consistent) offensive player in this league, having scored over 120 goals over the past 4 seasons, combined with a decent physical presence.
Subban is a flashy player without a doubt, but he's got way too many holes in his game to be a guy that a team would want as a top defenceman. He's also got a massively overinflated ego and as a result seems to be going down the Dion Phaneuf path of things where he needs to get a whole lot worse before he gets better and starts to fix the holes in his game. Subban hasn't gone through that reality check, and I think it's a really tough sell for a team to give up substantial value on him when there's a pretty good chance he's going to be worth less next year.
Furthermore, look around the league at any of the big market teams that have $5m+ in cap space.
Most of them would absolutely love to add Bobby Ryan to their lineup and give up a fairly substantial ransom to do so. 30+ goals, size, 25 years old, a reasonable defensive game, and 3 years left on his contract at $5.1m. Now ask yourself how many of those want the headache that Subban is going to bring?
Talk about a biased analysis. Subban "not even close" , "seems to be going the Dion Phaneuf path"...you don't have a clue of who Subban is.
At this point, I agree that Ryan's value is SLIGHTLY higher than Subban's, and I will not go down the path of inventing weaknesses for Ryan to back that up. But Subban has a hell of a lot more upside, and we also need him more at this point than we need Ryan. so no trade.
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