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08-27-2012, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bsl View Post
Actually that is the question, the only important question. I've decided through evidence, history, the other centers on the team at this time, his small size, and his lack of goal scoring on a team with no scoring centers, that the Habs , now, and for the next 5 years, will not win a cup with DD as no. 1 or 2 center.

I could be wrong. And I have stated that if DD gets 30 goals this year, I will eat every word I have written. I stand by this.

I want to see goals from DD. I want him to adjust his game like very good centers do, and give the team what it needs, goals from center.

Then I will take him seriously, not before.
Goal scoring is usually not the primary part of a center's job. Outside the machines (Stamkos&Malkin and to a lesser extent Tavares) you'll see most top centers between 15 and 25 goals. Desharnais was on the lower end with 16 but was no exception - Henrik Sedin had 14, Getlzaf had 11 and Datsyuk had 19 for instance.

Its not unreasonable to expect Desharnais to score more goals however and I expect he will (20g is what I expect next year). He's been a good goal scorer at every level, it might just be a matter of adapting his playing style to the NHL, he needs to shoot more as he doesn't have a bad shot (not the strongest but accurate and quick release). His goal scoring was not helped by the fact that he played most of the season with two great goal scorers with average passing while himself is a great passer with average goal scoring. If Therrien goes back to a Carbonneau-ish ''lets put a fourth liner on each line!'' you can expect Desharnais to have more goals and less assists.

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Originally Posted by seanont
I'm a big DD fan and have supported him on this thread. If he remains the teams top center he could hit 70+ points.. but the big but is on a good team he is a third/2nd line center getting 40-60pts a season. if we pay him 1st line money then this will be bad for our club, i would like him signed long term at 3.5 or less. If we pay him more then 4m it needs to be 2 years or less.
He won't get big money and thats precisely why he's golden.

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Originally Posted by bsl
Actually that is the question, the only important question. I've decided through evidence, history, the other centers on the team at this time, his small size, and his lack of goal scoring on a team with no scoring centers, that the Habs , now, and for the next 5 years, will not win a cup with DD as no. 1 or 2 center.
Galchenyuk will be our no1 center within 3 years. Meanwhile its possible Desharnais plays as a 3rd line offensive specialist a-la Briere if we acquire a better no2 center or if Eller finds out about using his teammates. Desharnais can contribute if we have the opportunity of having a stacked contending team, having 3 legit top6 centers is not unheard of, such depth is a great luxury.

Once again the choice is not ''Desharnais or better!?'', if we get a better center we don't have to ditch Desharnais. I'd rather have Shea Weber than PK Subban, it doesn't mean Subban needs to be put on waivers ASAP.


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