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09-04-2012, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by jkrx View Post
Markus peak years are the three seasons between 01-04. His closest rival in total points that season were Todd Bertuzzi (who played less games than Markus) and in PPG his closest rival were Thornton. How does that stack up vs. Gretzky, Lemieux, Coffey, Nicholls, Kurri, Hawerchuk, Savard, Messier, Stastny, Yzerman and Mullen?

Or have we really come to that point when that group is equal to Bertuzzi, Shanahan, Thornton, Iginla, Demitra, Alfredsson, Hossa, Sundin, Jagr and Sakic?

Not to mention Mats international record which is exceptional compared to Markus. Sorry but I rather have a competitive hard-working defensivebly responsible offensive winger than a guy who just happened to catch a perfect storm for three seasons only to return to being above average.

Not to mention creampuffs like the Sedins.
some people here seem to rate everyone higher based on point totals, regardless of era. This horse has been severely beaten to death, over and over - anyone who can't understand goaltending, equipment, training, etc. is free to say insane **** like this.

Yes, being first amongst the second group is far superior to being 10th in the first group. Behind Goulet, behind Jimmy Carson in points per game. Behind Ciccarelli. Compared to ahead of Joe Sakic and Jaromir Jagr, even in points per game? C'mon man.

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