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12-04-2003, 09:10 PM
Oi'll say!
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Niinimaa 81gp, +13
Brewer 81gp, -5
Smith 74gp, +14, 103 pims
Poti 55gp, -6
Staios 73gp, +10, 108 pims
Brown 61gp, +8, 127 pims
Ferguson 50gp, +11, 75 pims

Brown/Smith/Staios/Ferguson 258gp, 413 pims, +43

Team 182 Goals against

Niinimaa/Brewer/Smith/Staios/Ferguson 359 gp


Niinimaa 63gp, -7
Brewer 80gp, -11
Staios 76gp, +13, 96 pims
Smith 68gp, 64 pims
Ferguson 78gp, +11, 120 pims
Semenov 46gp, -7, 58 pims
Pisa 48gp, +11, 24 pims

Smith/Staios/Ferguson/Semenov 268gp, 338 pims, +22

Team 230 goals against

Niinimaa/Brewer/Smith/Staios/Ferguson 365 gp

You can see here that the 5 main guys on the blueline played almost the exact same # of games but the difference in goals against was staggering. The main difference on the blueline was Poti&Brown out, Semenov&Pisa in. Seeing as Poti was a -6 with 17 points and 42 pims his wasn't that great a loss.

Brown got 43 more pims than Semi and Pisa put together in 33 games less. That's a whole lot of toughness out the window, all for an ahl'er.

Yeah that's also a lot of pp's to give up, but seeing as we gave up 50 less goals against that didn't seem to hurt us too much.

The numbers would support the argument that Brown must have done something right here, I've personally always been a big believer that intimidation on the blueline is a huge factor.

At 6'3" 215 pounds with 192 and 188 pim seasons under his belt you'd better believe that Brown is intimidating, and if he's no good then why would the NJ Devils have him in their system? They're probably one of the two best teams at scouting d-men in the entire league along with StL.

This was a very bad trade for the Oilers, no doubt about it. At least until someone comes along with some facts to support a different conclusion.

P.S.- For all of Fergie's inadequacies he's played 152 games with 223 pims and a +25 in the past 2.5 seasons. He's made about $1M in that period of time.

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