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09-10-2012, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Canadiens1958 View Post
Pop gun offense? Care to back it up with numbers.

Good. Ah the old abstract /hypothetical. Step up with something concrete.
OK.

top-9 forwards in this series who played in the post-expansion NHL and their best 6 "vs. #2" scores by my calculations:

Pederson 97 88 72 66 62 59 (444)
Grant 74 73 73 67 67 61 (415)

Sullivan 84 78 69 67 59 55 (412)
Ridley 81 67 64 63 62 58 (395)
Vanek 74 74 63 60 58 49 (378)
G.Courtnall 73 68 63 58 58 57 (377)
R.Courtnall 71 70 66 57 56 50 (370)
Harris 59 58 55 52 50 49 (323)
Corson 60 59 51 50 48 45 (313)
Larose 60 58 45 44 42 39 (249)
Staal 52 45 45 37 30 26 (235)


your guys keep up pretty well at the top, but the six weakest are all Orfuns.

top-9 forwards in this series who played in the pre-expansion NHL or pre-NHL:

Wiseman 91 75 73 70 64 63 (436)
Ward 78 76 76 75 62 52 (419)
Haynes 93 86 70 60 58 23 (390)
Smith 76 70 64 62 58 44 (374)
Sands 67 58 57 51 50 41 (324)
Sandford 70 55 49 46 42 36 (298)
Gilmour 32 26 25 (83)

slotting in the pre-expansion guys with post-expansion is tougher because, all things being equal, I think they discriminate against early guys by about 15%. In addition to that, linemate situations make it harder to judge who was the catalyst the most often (I think the difference between one O6 player's situation and another can tend to be much larger than the difference between two modern players' situations)

If I was to try to rank these guys based on offensive potential in this series, I would go as follows:

Pederson
Wiseman

Ward
Haynes
Grant
Sullivan

Smith
Ridley
Vanek
G.Courtnall
R.Courtnall


Sands
Sandford
Staal

Corson
Harris
Larose


Gilmour

Having four of the weakest five offensively out of the 18 doesn't look good for you. After Pederson and a Danny Grant that you have to be really generous towards - thanks, Marcel Dionne - there is little there that would scare the opposition.

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