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09-12-2012, 01:30 PM
Iain Fyffe
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Originally Posted by tarheelhockey View Post
It makes me wonder where the SIHR number came from...
Bear in mind that there was no such thing as an official game reports at the time. Sometimes, different newspapers would disagree on who scored certain goals. You tend to go with the majority when necessary, but it obviously can depend on what you rely on as a source.

Originally Posted by Bring Back Scuderi View Post
There were two split leagues until the 1904-05 season. McGimsie played in the Manitoba & Northwestern Hockey Association(MNWHA) from 1902-1904. This was a three team league consisting of the Rat Portage Thistles, Brandon Wheat Cities, and Portage la Prairie Plains. During these three years, Rat Portage and Brandon both challenged for the Stanley Cup once.

(Best-of-three format at this time)
  • In March 1903, Ottawa beat Rat Portage (MNWHA) in two games (10-4)
  • In March 1904, Ottawa beat Brandon (MNWHA) in two games (15-6)

After the 1903-04 season ended all three MNWHA clubs join the two clubs from what I'm calling the Winnipeg Senior Hockey League to form the MHL. McGimsie now competes with the Winnipeg Victorias and the Winnipeg Rowing Club. The Rowing Club featured Breen, but I am unsure if any of the big guns were still with the Vics (Bain was gone, was Gingras?). They were the Western equivalent of Montreal AAA, but they were already on the downswing by the time McGimsie started playing them in 04-05.
If you want some detail, the Manitoba and Northwest Hockey Association was created in 1891, and until 1903 the only senior-level team that played in the league were based in Winnipeg. In the years leading up to 1903 the rural Manitoba intermediate-level teams, Brandon and Portage, and the Rat Portage intermediates, developed to such a level that they were really outclassing the Winnipegs and Vics second teams that they competed against. There was a kerfuffle in 1903 that wound up with all three non-Winnipeg teams being given admission to the senior level.

The Vics and Pegs, who didn't like this development, decided to leave the MNWHA and formed their own league, the Western Canada Hockey Association (WCHA). They took their pucks and went home, essentially.

This situation persisted for a couple of season when finally saner heads prevailed and the Winnipeg teams came back into the fold, and joined with the other teams to form the Manitoba Hockey League in 1904, which was one of the strongest leagues at the time. This was probably the golden era of hockey in Manitoba.

In 1906, the league decided to turn professional. This again caused friction with Winnipeg teams, and the WCHA was revived to allow senior teams who wanted to remain amateur to do so. This was in the early days of the pro hockey boom in Canada, when pro leagues were popping up all over. The pro league only lasted three seasons, and at that point the amateurs took over again, and Manitoba had the strongest amateur league in the country for some time thereafter, dominating early Allan Cup play.

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