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Originally Posted by Viqsi
RATIONAL CONCLUSION:
This was a very well executed trade that did an excellent job of making up for an earlier error, particularly given the extent to which Carter was dogging the team.
CBJ HOMER CONCLUSION:
CBJ won this trade by a country mile because JMFJ is a much better player than Carter and we got a 1st too!
HF GROUPTHINK CONCLUSION
Columbus gave away a quality forward for nothing, Howson is actively destroying anything resembling a team, and CBJ completely and utterly lost this trade AINEC.
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I respect that there can be differing opinions on this issue; however, I don't think it's helpful to go ahead and label one position as "rational" and the other "groupthink." Without support, it's all opinion. And of course no one can know the future for certain.
As far as Jack Johnson's "hatedom," you seem to think it's all based on irrational emotion. The stat crowd doesn't like JJ because he gives up a lopsided amount of shots and scoring chances at even strength. This has been measured and documented. The bulk of his offense comes on the power play, where he's excellent; however, most of the game is played at five on five.
I happen to like JJ. I think he's a great guy. I hope he turns the corner. But there are drawbacks as a defender there.
As for the rest, I wouldn't have traded for Carter because I didn't think he'd fit with Nash. However, I think he got a decent return for Nash. Everyone makes a big deal out of prospects, but you can't ignore promising young players like Dubinsky (who had horrible shooting luck last year and is due for a bounceback) and Anisimov are already established NHLers. The same people who are anti-JJ use the same kind of stats to point out that Dubinsky and Anisimov did well against tough competition.