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09-14-2012, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by LyricalLyricist View Post
I don't recall saying subban is elite defensively. You said "he's not reliable defensively".

I responded saying he's a key PK contributer on one of the best units league wide. Obviously, I'll agree that it's only a piece and not really indicative of a player's true defensive game. Unfortunately im on my phone so I can't find the other info right now. Basically subban's advanced stats are favorable towards him being a two-way presence on the ice.

I'd easily argue he's a top pairing d man right now. I won't argue #1 vs #2 on a team but he's clearly top 2. He's #1 on the habs and in teams like Boston who have chara, he'd be #2. Maybe some teams have super depth and he'd be #3(for instance last years predators).

In any case, my message isn't to suggest you need PK or you should trade for him. Just discussing what subban is right now.

everyone thinks PK Subban is a #1 not even close.

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