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09-18-2012, 09:54 AM
Et le But
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: New York
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Actually, the players pay 100% of the leagues costs. With the share of revenue the owners don't pay them to do their work. I pay to see the players, not the owners. The owners do no work. They live off of the work of others.
It's called Capitalism. The players produce the product, no one else,
not one other person produces the NHL product except the players.
But the owners own that product, protected by ironclad property laws that were designed for them, not the players, not you, and not me. There it is. And don't tell me the owners provide the venue, the risk. They don't. They borrow it, from banks, and profit from it. Hugely.
Anyone except a factory owner on this board who sides with Capital here is a mug. It's like middle class workers in the US voting Republican, against their own interests. Mugs. Idiots. Suckers in suits going to their ****** salary job every day.
Know your place. Middle class bourgeois, factory worker, dentist, lawyer, does not matter. If you ain't a capitalist, don't side with them.
Nothing has changed. Wake up.
Go read some Marx.
Man what an epic rant! I needed that!
I'm a socialist myself, but a lot of this analysis goes out the window when discussing professional sports, since the way it is today is such a product of modern capitalism.
Professional athletes do deserve certain rights and that's why players unions are historically important - wages that will last beyond their relatively short careers, some job protection so they aren't disposed at will (even crap players are under contract), the right to proper supervision and protection against unneccesary health risks. But they aren't on the same "side" as the other workers, the ones who are really getting screwed here. The players want further deregulation, so they can put more in their contracts.
It just doesn't make sense within the current system for the players to get more than 50% of revenue.
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