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09-28-2012, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bullseyed View Post
Probably. It is a topic that the media has drilled into people's heads for years, so people no longer recognize the bias in what they read. That and it is a topic most people refuse to be rational on.

When dealing when average salary for all workers, there are a ton of stats that go unaccounted for. The biggest two being:

Women are generally less likely to be the primary breadwinner for their family. Because of this, women are less likely to negotiate salary as hard as a primary breadwinner would. The family mortgage and bills are covered by their husband's income and their income usually goes toward things like child care, vacations, and nice things around the house. They'll get by if their salary is a little lower, so they don't negotiate as hard. This leads to a stereotype of women being bad at negotiation, which has some basis in brain chemisty and that kind of thing, but isn't nearly as impactful as the stereotype suggests.

Women take materinity leave. Not every woman every year, but overall the impact is pretty large. Women end up earning less because they are on unpaid time off, and the average female salary isn't adjusted to compensate. Some places offer paternity leave, but they aren't yet common. Plus the guy can't nurse the baby. (We'll ignore the formula vs breastfeeding pros and cons, I don't care.)
Ok, so you've posted two reasons why women get paid less. This makes it ok?

For your first point, the onus is not on the women to negotiate a fair salary, the onus is on the business to give a woman the same pay as a man would get for doing the same job.

For the second point, a woman should not have to choose between being a mother and having a career. Women should get paid maternity leave. In most of the industrialized world, they do. Our country sucks in this regard.

And don't give me some "oh that's just the way the buisness world is, it will never change and it is unrealistic to expect it to" bs. It's thinking like that which enshrines gender inequality and makes it so that women are still getting paid less than men for doing the same job.

And if your feminist organizational behavior whatever professor in grad school couldn't see through these arguments, they were a pretty ****** professor.

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