The Armchair GM Thread - Part XXX - Naughty Edition
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09-29-2012, 08:19 AM
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Behind the net tracks goals against/60MIN. Booth has fared exceptionally poor in 2 consecutive years. Worst on the entire Panther squad in '10-11 and 2nd worst behind Malhotra last year. Zone starts and quality of competition aren't taken into account so the numbers shouldn't necessarily be taken at face value - though I don't believe shots tell the entire story either. Stats aside, my observation of Booth deems him a below average defensive forward.
I wanted your source to make sure we were looking at the same thing. So you are referring to unadjusted GA/60 found here:
No QOC or zone start data. Immediately you look at Chris Higgins vs Kesler. The former has the higher CorsiRelQOC but a worse GA/60 than the latter... Yeah, the data needs more adjustment to take anything away from this alone. Interesting to note though that the Sedins allowed the most goals against of any forward (obvious TOI), but there is a disparity between Henrik allowing less than Daniel.
Essentially, I agree with Scurr on shot data. I think they tell _more_ of the story than GA. Not all, but more. And with shots against, Booth allowed the least per 60. Not to mention, his Corsi ON is quite strong at 16.6 (about equivalent to Perry, Sharp). So not only does he prevent shots, he drives play forward to generate shots at a strong rate. Both cases help defense. I still think he's underrated in this regard.
I would peg Booth as the teams 4th best goalscorer and have stated numerous times his ability to put the puck in the net is valuable. I just didn't see enough from him last year to think of him as anything but an average 2nd line forward. His vision and playmaking ability really are poor for a top 6 forward - as bad as you'll see IMO.
I understand what you are saying. His lack of playmaking is who he is though. These were traits known before the Canucks acquired him, but they chose to get him anyways... Perhaps they expect nothing more than what an average 2nd liner can provide? Nothing more than what Booth is known to provide...
I'm not saying he'll be waived anytime soon, just that if he were to be dealt he would bring back negligible value if we're not taking on undesirable salary. Not unlike dozens of other players around the league, a handful of which you had listed as 2nd line comparables.
I was a vocal advocate for bringing Booth in long before Gillis inquired about his services around the deadline last year - objectivity isn't an issue here.
You said he wasn't far from waiver territory. Objectivity will be questioned when comments like that are made, as you have seen (not just myself). He is not unlike dozens of 2nd liners around the league. Which is all this is really about.
While some would possibly want a 1st line forward on their 2nd line for the "scraps" Gillis gave up to get him (as you have referred to many times already), perhaps others just see that they got a 2nd line forward for free (essentially), and are contented by that alone.
Really, many teams would kill to have the forward corps the Canucks have - one that gets a lot of heat around here. If Gillis keeps supplementing the roster in a similar fashion, things look good moving forward. Right now, I see 8 top 6 forwards on the roster --> not many teams have that, and Gillis was still in on Doan to push it further... (He still has a chance to improve it)
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