2012 Winnipeg Blue Bombers/CFL Thread Pt. 2 - Fire Mack Edition
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10-11-2012, 01:37 AM
The Eternal Skeptic
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I agree 100%, with most of this.
I'm only waffling on the O-Line. Call me a CFL tradionalist, but starting 4 import O-Linemen just seems anti-CFL to me. Great CFL teams seem to always have outstanding Canadian hogs, imo, so you can play highly skilled americans in other areas.
Boy, five top 4 picks and we may only have Muamba and the 2013 1st overall to show for it. Not giving up on Poblah just yet, but he's got a ways to go. Etienne is a bust and Pencer is soon to follow. He was damaged goods when he was drafted. And to think we could have drafted Coehoorn or Iannuzzi instead of Etienne (who i'm sure would have been available in the 2nd or 3rd round).
I like Charles or Gaydosh. Either would be a nice addition to the D-Line.
But you are absolutely right, the most important piece to this puzzle will be at QB. Elliot has shown some ability. Is he inconsistent? Absolutely. Has he delivered? On occassion. That's enough, in my books, to let him have a few more starts to build on what he's learned.
Well point was we would have enough talented CDN's starting elsewhere to use imports on the OL, since clearly we cannot find/develop our own. Was just throwing it out there since we seem to have enough CDN talent to spread around, but it's highly unlikely any team would ever do this. The CDN O-Line tradition is just a function of not having enough talented CDN's elsewhere. Regardless, we have for sure the 4 elsewhere starters we need (Watson, Poblah, Logan, Muamba), so that's good enough.
Poblah has some special raw talent, but has a)not been able to stay healthy, b)been completely miss used on the outside. He is a natural speed SB, but is being relegated to the outside. They should move him into SB next year, run Matthews and Kohlert/Etienne on the outside, that'll work out much better, maximizing his skills and the skills of receiving corps.
Too early to give up completely on Etienne or Pencer (especially Pencer). Both were drafted as very young projects. Etienne though is getting close to bust territory. Next year's TC will be his make it or break it. The ONLY nice thing right now is that Etienne projects as a big WR threat, compared to Coehorn or Iannuzzi who are SB's and would be stuck behind Edwards, Denmark, Watson, Poblah. It's a small comfort, but hopefully he can find a role next year, since if he doesn't he might as well go. Still not sure why we ditched Hargreaves though for a guy like Etienne
Pencer has been injured all year. Not sure how he can be a bust? He is still projecting to play tackle, which would be awesome, but hell I'd take him if he can play LG. Let's see what he can do before declaring him a bust, although it was still a terrible move to trade up, not get their guy, then take a guy they could have had at #8
Way to waste that extra second Mack.
I'm gonna hold off on the draft talk for now, don't know enough about them, but yeah Charles, Gaydosh look fine. There seems to plenty of talent at DL in this draft with Kalonji Kashama (brother of current Bomber Fernand Kashama), Jesse Joseph (medical redshirted this year), Ben D'Aguilar and Elie Ngoyi along with the two aforementioned DL's in the CFL draft bureau top 15. Not sure if any of them are a Jabari Westerman type ready to step in to start. Of course nobody thought Westerman was a top 2 pick either until draft day.
Elliott's inconsistency is why I would bring in a Quinn/Reilly/Willy to compete with Elliott for the starting spot, have a no holds bar competition camp for the starting spot. Let the best QB win. You then have the other guy to fall back on and continue to push the starter to stay consistent.
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