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Originally Posted by showtime8
Shaun Marcum would be a solid free agent pick-up, coming back to a team as a potential #3 guy in the rotation. No pressure, but could be a question mark coming off injury.
Do you think the Jays would approach the Josh Johnson route that was brought up throughout the year? I think he would be a solid #1 and could be had for fairly cheap, IMO. (this is relatively speaking of course)
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I think Jays will definitely inquire on Josh Johnson but I don't know how serious they would be. There are plenty of FA options and I find it tough to see Jays giving up a lot for a guy with just 1 year left who could walk at the end of the year. Tough to sign him to a long-term extension for a guy with durability concerns.
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Originally Posted by showtime8
I'm very worried about Haren coming to the Jays. I think that he will want a 5 year contract and the very simple fact that someone would come to Toronto through free agency would blind people's eyes about what is truly wrong.
Haren has pitched close to 2000 innings since the 2005 season. So that could be taken as he's durable (throwing 238.1 innings last year) or that he's bound to wear down. If I'm Toronto, I'm taking a cautious approach with him offering a guaranteed 1 year contract with an option. Johnson on the other hand hasn't really proven anything, so doesn't really justify the contract that he's getting.
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He probably won't get the 5 year contract after the season he had. Most likely something closer to 3-4 years... I'm not sure the amount of money teams would give him but probably something around 10-13M.
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Originally Posted by Woodman19
Keep in mind, Harens velocity and K/9 have been declining steadily over the last 3 seasons. He is clearly a declining player so expecting results from 2-3 years ago are no longer realistic. I would argue his days as a top of the rotation arm are now done and all that should be expected is a middle of the rotation guy, unfortunately he will likely ask for top shelf money.
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Velocity wasn't in much of a decline until this year. Velocity does naturally decline over the years but he lost 1.5 of his fastball and he started to get hit harder because of it. I still think he can be a solid effective pitcher because he never used to be an overpowering pitcher. K/9 and BB/9 were similar to last year but his HR rate and hits went up. I think he will adjust though and learn to pitch with the velocity he has.
Nobody will be paying him ace type money (option wouldn't be getting declined if he were still a #1-2) but he can still be a #3 who is durable and eats a lot of innings. I think he would be a nice little veteran durable starter to have in the rotation.