Ovechkin vs. Lindros as of Summer 2000
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10-16-2012, 03:24 PM
I voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by
Czech Your Math
That's your hypothesis, not a proven fact.
Ok, first of all, let's introduce a bit of methodological sense here if we're going to look into the numbers. Going down to the top-20 is simply too deep, because it captures a lot of guys who may have gotten only a single Norris or all-star vote in any given season...a fact you surely noticed, right?
So let's just use Norris voting and set the cutoff at the last guy who got at least two top-3 votes. Ok? Fair standard. We'll start in the 1993-94 season, which was the first year that any of the "new Europeans" (Zubov, during his big year with the Rangers) broke into the Norris voting. Although western Europeans had been playing in the NHL for some time, the last european defenseman to make a major impact before Zubov was Borje Salming. The number of defensemen reaching the cutoff standard will vary from year-to-year here, but just remember that it is a minimum of two top-3 Norris votes. Please note, this is a longstanding standard for statistical significance in voting records that we've been using in the ATD for some years now. Whatever the results, I have not fiddled with the standard to suit my argument.
Here are your European Norris vote getters:
49/166 = 29.5%
Note that 32% of that 29.5% (16/49) is Nicklas Lidstrom, alone. It should also be noted that the finishes here are somewhat top-heavy for Europeans, also because of Lidstrom. At any rate, the numbers are what they are, and only reinforce what many people sense intuitively, which is that European forwards have had more of an impact in the NHL than have the defensemen.
There is, by the way, no reason to seperate Americans in this analysis. Americans have been playing and starring in the NHL for more than 100 years (Si Griffis is the oldest American HHOFer, I believe). The expansion of population in the American hockey hotbeds needs to be taken into account when one evaluates north america, certainly, but I sort of take it as a given that we're already doing that. American talent has had its own ebb and flow, but seperating it in a discussion about European impact only confuses matters. For all intents and purposes, the north american hockey talent pool is a single entity.
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