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10-24-2012, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Man Bear Pig View Post
So either we win now or chuck the blueprint? These guys are in their mid 20's, come on now. We also have this kid named Rielly, likely better than any of the above named minus Kessel.
Teams that don't start winning before their key players hit UFA status usually have trouble retaining their UFAs and as a result either rebuild by trading them or rebuild by losing them.

Recent examples:
-Florida (Bouwmeester, Horton, etc.)
-CBJ (Nash - convinced him to re-sign due to their increase in spending but still couldn't win, Vermette)
-MIN (Gaborik and Burns) - managed to keep Koivu
-Atlanta (Hossa then Kovalchuk)

These teams' star players contracts came up in years when they were losing and as a result they were basically thrown into a re-build.

Originally Posted by MajorityRules View Post
The best goalie of the last 30 years who already had a Stanley Cup was traded for a meh return back before the salary cap era. The GM at the time was a complete moron but still had a lot more options than Vancouver does.

What makes you think Luongo should return more than he did?
-A 35 year old Hasek was traded for Kozlov, who was a 30 goal scorer and had scored as many as 72 points in a season, and a 1st.

Leafs equivalent - Lupul and a 1st?

-A 29 year old Roy was traded for:
-Thibault, who was a top prospect who had shown well at the NHL level and became and all-star
-Rucinsky, a young two-way guy that had a 29 goal year the season of the trade and a 28 goal year the year after, and
-Kovalenko, a young power forward who went on to have a 28 goal year the year of the trade followed by a 32 goal season directly after the trade.

Leafs equivalent - Gardiner (Thibault), Kulemin (Rucinsky), and Lupul (Kovalenko) - note: can't make this perfect, Rucinsky was better than Kule, Lupul better than Kovalenko

The Avs actually gave up a lot for Roy but despite that, his performance was so good that it basically made it seem like nothing. The Canadians actually got two guys who scored at 30 goal clips during the clutch and grab era and a young all-star level goalie for Roy.

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