Thread: Proposal: Tor - Car
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10-28-2012, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 416Leafer View Post
Ashton doesnt have nearly the value to bridge the gap between Gardiner and Skinner.

Gardiner + JVR is probably getting closer to reasonable. And even then I dont think they need a Gardiner type of Dman.

only on HF does JVR have more value then Lupul.

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