Thread: Value of: Brooks Orpik
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11-02-2012, 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rowdy Roddy Peeper View Post
I watched Orpik play 60+ regular season games last season and every playoff game. The guy was losing men in coverage and getting drawn out of position (whether trying to hit someone or harangue an opponent behind the play) regularly. He wasn't alone in his poor play, but he sure as hell wasn't a beacon of defensive light emanating from the blueline. Physical does not equal responsible. Letang and Niskanen both played better defense than Orpik against Philly.

You are right in that defense is the biggest issue for the Pens. But retaining Orpik is not a pre-requisite to that, since he was as bad as any defenseman outside of Martin that series, and just finished a very inconsistent regular season.

But if you think he's such a stalwart, by all means, make an offer.
That is why I just can't see why it is even a possibility to trade him for a scoring winger, the Penguins don't need scoring wingers. If you want to trade Orpik, why wouldn't you consider dealing him along with something else to get a better D if you just want to move him?

Just because he was playing on the top pairing at times for the Penguins doesn't mean that is the ideal situation for him. It really looked to me like he was trying to do too much. He needs to keep his gam as simple as possible and when your partner is always on the attack it makes it more difficult to maintain that simplicity.

I watch a lot of Penguins games as well, I live in Pittsburgh, my wife's boss gives us his tickets when he can't make it to a game which is about 8-10 times a year.

I am not a Penguins fan but I am a hockey fan and I really think that either you are expecting too much from Orpik or you are used to seeing him playing a simple game where his partner also plays D.

The Penguins won the Stanley Cup with more players like Orpik, not less. Now they have Orpik as the only guy who plays that kind of game, maybe Engelland does somewhat, but he doesn't play every game.

The thing I will give you is that Orpik sure as heck doesn't fit in the kind of style that the Penguins played last year in the playoffs, but there aren't many D who do fit in with a style like that and manage to look good. If they had Bobby Orr, Brad Park, Larry Robinson, Dennis Potvin, Ray Bourque, and Paul Coffey on D then their style would work great.

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