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Originally Posted by Epictetus
That's a fallacy unless you are under the belief that one bad year = no longer a #1 anymore. Outside of this past season, Haren was a top 15 pitcher in baseball.
If that's true for you, then following your argument, Roy Halladay is also not a #1 anymore.
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Haren had a drastic decrease in maximal velocity from his prime years and doesn't have near the secondary stuff of a Roy Halladay. He's not a #1 anymore.