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11-03-2012, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by OlTimeHockey View Post
The luxury box concept is the only real difference, then.
But it's the same principle that applies to ads and concessions that you see with suites:
-- Fewer suites and club seats.
-- Fewer ad spaces (via technology like LED boards, for example)
-- Fewer concession stands (and far fewer high-end concessions)

A full house in NVMC would generate less revenue than the same attendance by a team in a newer, better, modern venue.

Originally Posted by OlTimeHockey View Post
And in 2001, we were positive in revenue. The arena stood in the way then as did SMG and we were still in the blacků. no one gives a **** about a team that doesn't give a ****. Period.
We were positive in revenue by $1 million. We also finished DMFL that season, 38 points out of the playoffs.
We didn't lose money, only because we paid little for a roster that was embarrassingly bad. That's not success.

I agree with you: We've been horribly mismanaged and have sucked for years. We drafted a ton of great talent and Mad Mike dealt it away in bad trades; then we have been on a shoe-string budget with unqualified people since he was booted.

But at the same time, it doesn't matter who is in charge: To make money consistently in our arena, you have to be really good with a really cheap team. If winning cheaply was easy, everyone would do it. It's incredibly hard to do. And virtually impossible to do over long periods of time. When you win with cheap players, those players become expensive players. When you have a really smart GM who keeps managing to win with cheap players year after year, some richer team offers that GM more money.

Originally Posted by OlTimeHockey View Post
We still have a team, but we would have a team in Nassau in a new arena if we had a better owner.
Now THAT I disagree with. Nassau's wanted to develop that land for 59 years and all they managed to build was an arena that wasn't very good from the start. Milstein didn't get it done. He walked away. How many other guys have tried and failed in the last six decades?

Originally Posted by OlTimeHockey View Post
New arena does not mean ad dollars - they would have to succeed like the Mets don't in their new arena.
Well, the Mets also have a relatively unique situation with the Madoff debacle driving fans away. But that's an entirely different conversation of sucking and mismanagement.

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