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Forwards with whom Craig Ramsay collaborated on even strength points throughout his career. (Displaying those with two or more in a season.)

1971-72 13
Randy Wyrozub 3
Phil Goyette 3
Steve Atkinson 2
Doug Barrie 2
Gerry Meehan 2
1972-73 28
Don Luce 16
Larry Mickey 10
Steve Atkinson 3
Rene Robert 2
Jim Lorentz 2
1973-74 40
Don Luce 32
Rick Dudley 8
Steve Atkinson 8
Norm Gratton 3
Larry Mickey 2
Doug Rombough 2
1974-75 50
Danny Gare 35
Don Luce 31
Larry Carriere 2
1975-76 63
Don Luce 36
Danny Gare 32
Rene Robert 5
Fred Stanfield 4
1976-77 42
Don Luce 25
Rene Robert 8
Gary McAdam 7
Danny Gare 5
Gilbert Perreault 5
Jim Lorentz 2
1977-78 61
Danny Gare 32
Don Luce 31
Rene Robert 2
Gilbert Perreault 2
Andre Savard 2
1978-79 41
Don Luce 24
Ric Seiling 15
Danny Gare 10
1979-80 45
Don Luce 14
Gilbert Perreault 11
John Gould 9
Ric Seiling 6
Rick Dudley 5
Danny Gare 5
Rick Martin 3
Andre Savard 2
1980-81 51
Andre Savard 21
Ric Seiling 16
Rick Dudley 7
Don Luce 6
Gilbert Perreault 5
Danny Gare 4
Steve Patrick 4
Alan Haworth 2
Lindy Ruff 2
1981-82 46
Andre Savard 23
Ric Seiling 17
Lindy Ruff 6
Steve Patrick 4
Gilbert Perreault 4
Yvon Lambert 4
Brent Peterson 2
1982-83 25
Brent Peterson 12
Andre Savard 5
Mike Foligno 3
Ric Seiling 3
Mike Moller 2
Dale McCourt 2
Lindy Ruff 2
1983-84 22
Brent Peterson 12
Ric Seiling 7
Sean McKenna 5
Real Cloutier 2
Mike Moller 2
1984-85 28
Brent Peterson 15
Ric Seiling 7
Mal Davis 5
Dave Maloney 4
Sean McKenna 2

From 1972-73 to 1978-79, Luce and Ramsay were full-time linemates. Gare played three full seasons with them and parts of others, with Rene Robert, Larry Mickey, Rick Dudley, Ric Seiling, and others filling the RW spot the rest of the time.

In 1979-80 Scotty Bowman arrived in Buffalo and threw the lines into the famous Bowman blender. It appears that Luce was still Ramsay's most frequent linemate, but he had a hand in only 14 of Ramsay's 45 ESP, about half the typical ratio in earlier seasons. In the next two seasons Ramsay played primarily with Andre Savard and Ric Seiling, and then finished his career with three seasons on Brent Peterson's wing.

On to Bob Gainey.

1974 35
Jacques Lemaire 14
Guy Lafleur 10
Murray Wilson 6
Yvan Cournoyer 6
Henri Richard 5
Pete Mahovlich 2
1975 25
Doug Jarvis 10
Jimmy Roberts 8
Guy Lafleur 6
Jacques Lemaire 3
Pete Mahovlich 2
Doug Risebrough 2
1976 32
Doug Jarvis 14
Jimmy Roberts 8
Rejean Houle 4
Murray Wilson 2
Jacques Lemaire 2
1977 26
Doug Jarvis 14
Rick Chartraw 6
Rejean Houle 4
Doug Risebrough 3
Jacques Lemaire 2
Yvan Cournoyer 2
1978 36
Doug Jarvis 11
Guy Lafleur 7
Pat Hughes 6
Jacques Lemaire 5
Rejean Houle 5
Rick Chartraw 4
Steve Shutt 3
Pierre Mondou 2
Mario Tremblay 2
1979 22
Doug Jarvis 6
Mark Napier 5
Rick Chartraw 3
Rejean Houle 2
Mario Tremblay 2
1980 35
Doug Jarvis 16
Mark Napier 6
Chris Nilan 6
Rejean Houle 5
Pierre Mondou 2
1981 39
Mark Napier 19
Doug Jarvis 19
Mark Hunter 4
1982 26
Keith Acton 13
Mark Napier 8
Mark Hunter 4
Guy Lafleur 2
1983 37
Guy Carbonneau 18
Chris Nilan 8
Guy Lafleur 7
Pierre Mondou 6
Mats Naslund 2
Steve Shutt 2
Mario Tremblay 2
1984 26
Guy Carbonneau 17
Chris Nilan 11
Lucien DeBlois 2
1985 39
Guy Carbonneau 19
Chris Nilan 11
Brian Skrudland 3
Serge Boisvert 3
Mats Naslund 2
Bobby Smith 2
Kjell Dahlin 2
Stephane Richer 2
1986 15
Guy Carbonneau 9
Mike Lalor 3
Brian Skrudland 2
Sergio Momesso 2

From 1975-76 until 1981-82, Doug Jarvis was clearly Gainey's most common linemate. But the stats suggest that they didn't play together all the time like Ramsay and Luce did.

1976-1982: Jarvis has a hand in 90 of Gainey's 215 even strength points (42%)
1973-1979: Luce has a hand in 195 of Ramsay's 325 even strength points (60%)

It appears Gainey was shuffled around the most in the 1978-79 season, maybe his best and most famous season. It would be a mistake to attribute that usage to his entire career, but it still appears he was moved around the lineup more than Ramsay was in their respective primes.
overpass, not sure if it matters for what you're saying.. but, a few of those linemates you have listed above were actually defensemen.. ?

Barrie, Maloney, Lalor.. and then Ruff, Roberts and Chartraw played there as well (Chartraw moreso).


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