Sven Bärtshi vs Mikael Granlund
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11-05-2012, 05:18 PM
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I really don't get it. Why do you think Granlund's playmaking is better than Koivu's? Do you have any numbers to prove that? You stated this multiple times and you use it as an argument against Bärtschi. But all I can see is a "His playmaking is better than Koivu's because I said so!" type of argument from your side. That's something I'd expect from a 1st grader. But since I think that you aren't a first grader, I hope you have something to prove your opinion.
I'm sorry, but your responses make you look like a massive homer. That's nothing tragical, I'm one by myself (Hey, I voted Bärtschi because I hope he ends up better than Granlund, not because I think he'll be better than Granlund
) as most users on these boards are.
It's okay to vote for Granlund. It's okay to vote for Bärtschi. But it's NOT okay to say one prospect is worse because of his nationality. I mean, it would be understandable if we were talking about a guy from Uganda or something like that. Still not okay, but understandable. But we are talking about Switzerland, a nation that has started to produce NHL players on a regular basis. Guys like Hiller, Gerber, Streit, Josi or Sbisa aren't a product of luck.
And last but not least: It's not okay to sell your opinion as a fact.
I'd agree with you on Granlund > Bärtschi. But you make it look like Granlund >>>>>>>>>>>> Bärtschi, which is laughable. They both had great junior careers so far. One guy was ripping the CHL apart (2.0 ppg) in his sophomore season, the other one proved that he's able to be a (close to) ppg player in a pro league in his draft year.
They are both great prospects with a bright future and very close skill-wise.
First of all, that nationality thing was a joke making fun of this homerism tendency (especially Canadian one). Maybe it wasn't that funny, I admit. Switzerland is indeed a growing hockey nation and has many good players and prospects, Baertschi being one of the biggest names in that regard. In fact I must say that Baertschi is just top-notch talent, really complete package, great player already.
And Baertschi was indeed one notch higher than Granlund (IIRC) in HF top propsect rankings just recently (9 th?). So, it's really close between the two (I said "and it's not even close" earlier but that was more or less just another "joke").
But if you compare them they seem to be pretty different kind of players in the end - Baertschi being better or as good in almost every conceivable area. So, one must ask how come could Granlund be better or even close to Baertschi if this is the case. (Baertschi better: skating, size --> defensive game (?); about even: shot, scoring, stickhandling). And it's of course only playmaking or hockey sense/vision which makes Granlund as good as he is - and probably even better than Baertschi. And if it makes him better than Baertschi, he really should be one helluva playmaker. -- And he is. Granlund simply can play hockey, no matter what.
But yes, it's a close call, and it can go either way. Baertschi may be more well rounded but Granlund has an edge in playmaking. Maybe Baertschi's skill set translates better but if Granlund can bring his game to the NHL watch out.
And Granlund's been playing in the same national team with Koivu and it just seems that he is better playmaker. (And his stats are much more impressive than Koivu's at the same age but that's a different story.)
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