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11-05-2012, 08:01 PM
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Mathletic
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Originally Posted by AngelDuck View Post
This is the lowest I've ever seen Seth Jones.
yeah and this is in no way to say that Seth Jones is a bust or whatever. Kid will be a solid NHLer for quite some time. I'll re-post what I wrote in the mock draft section.

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The way I understand the game is that good forwards have a greater impact on the game than good d-men. In a sense yes it comes down a bit to points. Although the defensive part of the game is huge. In fact, I do think d-men in general play a greater role in the game. I just don't think there's that big of a gap between great, good and average d-men that there is for forwards. The very good forwards are more valuable than the very good d-men roughly speaking.

Top forwards in general are very high picks when there's a lot of solid d-men who can be had for a lot less. For example, among this group of leading forwards in the NHL

Malkin, Stamkos, Neal, Giroux, Spezza, Kessel, Crosby, Gaborik, Kovalchuk, Ovechkin, Eberle, Hossa

most were very high picks, whereas

Hamhuis, McDonagh, Mitchell, Pietrangelo, Weber, Girardi, Chara, Suter, Gorges, Boyle, Shattenkirk, White, Vlasic, Garrison

were affordable at one point in their career.

Also, the difference between the top forward and the 30th forward in the league is much greater than it is between the top and 30th d-man IMO.

This doesn't mean you shouldn't draft d-men and whatnot. It's just that, in Toronto's case for example, they already have some solid d-men coming up. Whereas their group of forward is suspect. I think they'd be better off swinging for a homerun with a kid like Barkov, Drouin or Monahan than a safe pick like Jones.


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Originally Posted by jmdubois585 View Post
Really like you work. Although I'm aware that it could be a strong draft for the Q, I'm quite surprised to see some guys like Roy, Gauthier and Mantha going so high. I do realize this is based on stats, but it's pretty interesting to see the Q being on top
Obviously, since this is an objective ranking, I'm leaving my own peronal biases aside. That said, I'm a big Q fan obviously. Big fan of the Remparts and really happy that the Q should have a very strong crop this year ... unlike next year, at least, what it's shaping up to, should be better in 2 years though ... but hey, I'll take a solid draft when it comes. I defended the league and the players a few times. Although all evidence is there to show that the OHL, especially, is a stronger league. The difference between the 3 leagues is vaslty overblown by some.

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