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11-07-2012, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayor Bee View Post
During the 1990s, San Diego finished above .500 four times, made the playoffs twice, and was 758-799 overall. From 2000-08 (when their ownership problems began), they made the playoffs twice and were 694-765 overall.
The Padres won their division four times in the last 20 years and also made it to the world series. While perenially having one of the smallest payrolls in baseball and revolving owners and management

Originally Posted by Mayor Bee View Post

This season was the first time since 2006 that the A's finished with an above-.500 mark. Ever since "Moneyball" was written, Oakland basically lost their competitive advantage since other teams started outbidding the A's for the types of players that they were in the market for, leaving them with scraps and guys who were on their way out of the league entirely. In many ways, Frank Thomas was the symbol of the post-"Moneyball" A's....they signed him at a bargain price because he was thought to be done entirely, he had a huge year, and they lost him as a free agent to a team that could simply afford to spend a lot more on him.
Since 2000 the A's have made the playoffs six times that's almost 50% of the time in a sport that it's very hard to make the playoffs in

Tampa quickly we forget the fact that their first 10 years involved 9 finishes in the bottom of the AL East, no playoff appearances, and the best single-season record of 70-91. Years upon years of good drafting got them to a position of being able to contend, and then their top players (Carl Crawford and Carlos Pena) l
eft for free agency.
The Rays have made the playoffs three of the last 5 years

In the case of Cleveland, they had a run of seven years where they made the playoffs six times (and went 90-72 the year they missed), and had a pair of World Series appearances. Nearly everything went right from drafting, trading, and developing, and then everything fell apart when the economics of baseball forced it to be dismantled.
Everything went drafting, trading, and developing under John Hart. The team has not done nearly as well of a job under Shapiro and that is a much bigger percentage of their problem.

It's much more about management than economics

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